• Discovery Automotive destroys customer's car along with what was left of their reputation

      Take this as a warning BMW enthusiasts. Discovery Automotive was able to create a good reputation for themselves on M5board where they profited from exposure in cleaning up RMS mistakes. Shadowman, Bill of Discovery Automotive, was able to force his way into the lucrative high-end BMW tuning scene through the easiest route available, which is taking advantage of M5 owners. To be honest, we fell for this as well seeing Discovery Automotive take great care in posting their builds to give the appearance of a high end shop only for horror stories to start to surface.

      What happened in this particular instance is that Bill took a car that was under his care, a twin turbo Ford GT, and went out to a spot known to the locals as a "drag strip" and abused the car resulting in losing control and wrecking it. Bill, William E. Knobloch, would begin to distort the truth attempting to skirt responsibility for what happened. What happened was he behaved irresponsibly with an immensely powerful vehicle that did not belong to him and wrecked it playing around like some teenager who couldn't control himself. Feel free to read the whole story in quotes below.

      Take this as a warning when sending your car to a tuner or who you are using as your tuner. This isn't the only tuner who has behaved irresponsibly with a car under their care. How many of them go out under the guise of "testing" only to race around with someone else's property? Well, at least we all know that Discovery Automotive is one tuner BMW fans can cross off the list, permanently.





      This article was originally published in forum thread: Discovery Automotive strikes again started by fstop7 View original post
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      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        I heard bad stuff years ago about DA but this is crazy!
        He has 7 lawsuits against him, and guys like David WilsonSod and 0-60 try and defend D/A. Go fuggin fiqure.
      1. 600whp S4's Avatar
        600whp S4 -
        shadowman is a pimp.......... I mean he is a hobbit that works on exotics and owns one aswell.
      1. Yukohama's Avatar
        Yukohama -
        one post in there was interesting. this guy would still go to shadowtool with his car, even after it was evident that shadowprick made up a story and tried to put the liability on the owner of the car? people are retarded...
      1. wilsodh's Avatar
        wilsodh -
        Wow, you guys are so full of useful commentary. Click here to enlarge

        Anyway, FYI, here's the latest from Ford GT Forum:

        http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/sh...Issue-Resolved.

        Dave
      1. Yukohama's Avatar
        Yukohama -
        ^^^ already posted above you.
      1. wilsodh's Avatar
        wilsodh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        He has 7 lawsuits against him, and guys like David WilsonSod and 0-60 try and defend D/A. Go fuggin fiqure.
        Thanks Jimmy. Constructive as always.

        Dave
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wilsodh Click here to enlarge
        Thanks Jimmy. Constructive as always.

        Dave
        WTF? Can't you just stop it Dave? Are you going to defend that bastard till your last breath?
      1. wilsodh's Avatar
        wilsodh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        WTF? Can't you just stop it Dave? Are you going to defend that bastard till your last breath?
        Dude, all I have done is relate my personal experiences and state facts. Sorry it doesn't fit with your world view. My defense of Bill was about nothing more than the product he built that sits in my garage, what he did to make it happen, and the great service i've had over the years. Just one guy's positive experience, nothing more. And yes, I'm going to jump in and relate my experience given the e-stoning going on and all the lemmings gleefully piling on.

        All you have done is trash-talk... your usual MO. So yeah, I'll call that out too when I see it.

        Dave
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        He has 7 lawsuits against him, and guys like David WilsonSod and 0-60 try and defend D/A. Go fuggin fiqure.
        Hey man lets get one thing straight, I am not defending DA but I am defending David's right to be happy with his WORKING car. You need to relax, you dont know me.

        0-60 always works with the right suppliers and workshops and thank God I have had an excellent record since 1998! I havent needed to work with DA and I wont in the future either.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        He has 7 lawsuits against him, and guys like David WilsonSod and 0-60 try and defend D/A. Go fuggin fiqure.
        Support for 7 lawsuits?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wilsodh Click here to enlarge
        And yes, I'm going to jump in and relate my experience given the e-stoning going on and all the lemmings gleefully piling on.
        I find it sad that you consider those who don't swallow Shadowman's BS lemmings. I think it is the exact opposite.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fstop7 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky - FYI, Autoblog is linking to BB, but their link 404s. You should fix that so you get the traffic they're sending you.
        They fixed it, I appreciate Autoblog's coverage, nice to see us recognized finally.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Yeah Good for BB Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Very nice, the story blew up further than Shadowman thought would happen and he was forced to settle to avoid further bad press: (EDIT - owner says it is not resolved, Shadowman is just spinning it here)

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Shadowman Click here to enlarge
        For those that read and enjoyed the process of creating a train wreck or as stated a burning at the stake I feel bad because in the end it was an accident that was not associated with a malicious act and for those that read and questioned whether the entire story was being understood I thank you for reading and tempering your reply.

        Regardless I was in an accident, Ray’s gal was destroyed, and I was able to walk away after which the processes as associated with such an act unfolded. This was a process that involved both the insurance companies and tested the relationship between Ray and myself.

        I filed the initial insurance claim a process that ultimately required that Ray open a claim too as the collision insurance follows the gal as such we had two companies involved.

        In the end it was a painful process and ordeal for all of us; Ray and his family emotionally for their mechanical loss and for me both physically and emotionally. Ray has since purchased a new gal and will slowly put this moment behind him and his family whereas I will likely revisit it from time to time for the rest of my life. This in no way trivializes that which happened but rather are the mechanical acts associated with it; it was an accident, nothing more.

        In closing the Forums are a wonderful place to hang out however within the group are those that do not present themselves or act as they would when eye contact is involved; I would encourage all to think twice before making a comment about a situation that you are not party to hence know little or nothing about.

        I presented the story so it could be discussed because it IMO was horrific and an incident that I would never want another to experience and then to my dismay the comments made by those that know nothing of the events other than a snippet as shared by one party and certainly know nothing of me dumbfounded me. For those that made ugly comments about this which you truly did not know I hope that such a witch hunt is never initiated against you.

        Takes care

        Shadowman
        Will we get the details? No, but hopefully Shadowman pays a price.
      1. Giggity's Avatar
        Giggity -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Here is "shadowman" :

        Attachment 3295
        People actually let someone that looks like that touch their cars? *cringe*
      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Very nice, the story blew up further than Shadowman thought would happen and he was forced to settle to avoid further bad press:



        Will we get the details? No, but everyone paid a price.
        The owner posted last night saying it has not been settled yet.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        The owner posted last night saying it has not been settled yet.
        Wow, really? Well, this just keeps getting twisted and it seems Shadowman will blatantly lie to attempt to portray it as resolved. Guy has no shred of decency.
      1. fstop7's Avatar
        fstop7 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wilsodh Click here to enlarge
        Wow, you guys are so full of useful commentary. Click here to enlarge

        Anyway, FYI, here's the latest from Ford GT Forum:

        http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/sh...Issue-Resolved.

        Dave
        $#@! you and $#@! your "gal".

        There's some commentary for you.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        ^ That link doesn't work, what is up with FordGT forum and locking the topic and deleting threads to protect him? I don't get it.
      1. fstop7's Avatar
        fstop7 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        ^ That link doesn't work, what is up with FordGT forum and locking the topic and deleting threads to protect him? I don't get it.
        Hush money in the house.


        Just a friendly reminder to DA or any other shady vendors who may be reading this: My vocal support and/or silence are ALWAYS for sale, please PM me your offers! Thanks!