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    • DCT Build Part VII - Taking the BMW E92 M3 DCT to the next level, 800+ wheel horsepower clutch disc capacity

      You have seen the DCT taken apart, what it looks like inside, worn clutch discs, and brand new higher capacity clutch discs made. The new discs handle 600+ and 700+ whp respectively. With my power goals, SSP has decided to build a clutch pack that is beyond anything developed at this time for the DCT. What is the power goal? Well, it is beyond what is currently available and SSP is currently developing a clutch disc pack capable of over 800 wheel horsepower.

      How is this being done?

      The current clutch discs are of a thicker material than the stock discs. However, the stock clutch pack has 9 discs in it. By increasing the number of clutch discs they are going to increase the maximum torque capacity. By going to a thicker material and increasing the total number of discs to 11, the DCT in the BMW M3 will be taken to a level no one previously thought was possible. This is going to be similar to the GTR 1000 hp clutch setup by SSP (pictured) but the GTR uses more clutch discs albeit smaller, thinner discs.

      What else is being done and how much time will it take?

      The DCT is going to receive a cooling system based on what SSP has done with the GTR's. This will be a DCT specific application and will be great for the guys who track. No more overheats, no more staying away from the track on hot days. Look for a separate build thread specifically for the cooling system in the next few weeks. Regarding the time period, expect completion next month with the car returning fully assembled and capable of handling the increased power.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's being worked on I don't know what else you want, slave labor?
        I don't know about being worked on, but you were certainly worked over by Gintani.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Doesn't matter if this week is over or not, someone already said they called and spoke with Matt and they are shooting for next week...next month, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week..... Do you know who J Wellington Wimpy is? Maybe you should change your username.
        Ok you be negative cool I'll let them do their work. Go babysit them if you like. RELAX.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I don't know about being worked on, but you were certainly worked over by Gintani.
        Nowhere near to a degree as you were by Evosport.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Two months ago when Sticky announced the No Fly Zone event someone asked if his car was going to be ready, his response "if not there's going to be hell to pay" or something along those lines...No Fly Zone was two weeks ago, there was absolutely no hell to play and still no running car.

        Somebody has zero credibility, I know it is not me.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Nowhere near to a degree as you were by Evosport.
        I beg to differ, they made good on all the money I was owed and my car has been running for over the past two years since that debacle ended. Your damn build started before that whole debacle and it is still not $#@!ing running, how do you figure I got it worse????
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Two months ago when Sticky announced the No Fly Zone event someone asked if his car was going to be ready, his response "if not there's going to be hell to pay" or something along those lines...No Fly Zone was two weeks ago, there was absolutely no hell to play and still no running car.

        Somebody has zero credibility, I know it is not me.
        What makes you think they haven't?

        Seriously your constant whining serves no purpose. Go ahead, type for days, it isn't going to change anything. Either fly out and pick up a wrench or just wait like everyone else.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I beg to differ, they made good on all the money I was owed and my car has been running for over the past two years since that debacle ended. Your damn build started before that whole debacle and it is still not $#@!ing running, how do you figure I got it worse????
        Ya, it was a debacle, exactly.

        My build is completely different and all builds don't work on the same time schedule as all cars are not the same. Blah blah blah blah
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        I bet we are having the same discussion one week from now, and again after you miss Shift Sector...DCT this and Sleeved that and some build take longer......blah blah blah to you, you're the one that sounds like a broken record with all the excuses, not me, ask the masses, I am sure they will agree.
      1. AWil335i's Avatar
        AWil335i -
        I really want to see this race in Chicago....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I bet we are having the same discussion one week from now, and again after you miss Shift Sector...DCT this and Sleeved that and some build take longer......blah blah blah to you, you're the one that sounds like a broken record with all the excuses, not me, ask the masses, I am sure they will agree.
        Ok well I hope not yay. Take care and enjoy your weekend.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Last week is officially over and next week is officially here....Sticky, since you're in Vegas right now why don't tell us what the odds makers are saying about your car being running this week.......I am going with slim to none
      1. RnmEvo9's Avatar
        RnmEvo9 -
        So, the car is going to be done this week?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 Click here to enlarge
        So, the car is going to be done this week?
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
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        Please give Gintani a call this week.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        Please give Gintani a call this week.
        I am not going to call them, I will let someone else do it. I will go ballistic on them and they will never finish his car out of spite.

        I just want to race Sticky and beat him so he maybe then realizes this entire build was a giant wast of time and money. While they are playing grab ass over at Gintani Weistec is upping their game on my CLK, I will be in the 9's before Sticky is in the 10's LOL....and he thinks he has something for me LOL
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I am not going to call them, I will let someone else do it. I will go ballistic on them and they will never finish his car out of spite.

        I just want to race Sticky and beat him so he maybe then realizes this entire build was a giant wast of time and money. While they are playing grab ass over at Gintani Weistec is upping their game on my CLK, I will be in the 9's before Sticky is in the 10's LOL....and he thinks he has something for me LOL
        Maybe a verbally abusive phone call is what Gintani needs to get this build finished.

        I would be shocked if Gintani let a random person influence their desire to finish Sticky's build. However, a swift kick in the ass and the awareness that the masses are carefully scrutinizing Gintani's project might light a fire under their ass.

        If nothing else, it will at least give you an opportunity to find out more information as to why the build is being delayed.
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        As much as I like to disagree with Sticky...this isn't our fight. His money so his problem (although the very first post here seems to indicate the build would take 10 weeks). That post was 31 Mar 2010 which is about 154 weeks ago. Click here to enlarge
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        Still no news? I wish I had Sticky's patience....or maybe I don't, actually.
      1. ersin's Avatar
        ersin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I WANT to go to Chicago. Any racing would be a by-product of that. I don't see the big deal or the reason for any doubt.
        Chicago is too freakin' cold. The fact that you WANT to go to Chicago proves that you are crazy.


        Cheers.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        Maybe a verbally abusive phone call is what Gintani needs to get this build finished.

        I would be shocked if Gintani let a random person influence their desire to finish Sticky's build. However, a swift kick in the ass and the awareness that the masses are carefully scrutinizing Gintani's project might light a fire under their ass.

        If nothing else, it will at least give you an opportunity to find out more information as to why the build is being delayed.
        Lets just say some people I know know exactly what is going on behind the scenes, people jump around from job to job, company to company and with that information transfers from person to person. If Stickys car is not done soon I might just spill the beans myself.