• Naturally aspirated German power - Eurocharged tuned W204 C63 AMG M156 V8 vs. Evolve Tuned E60 M5 S85 V10 and comparison to ESS S85 tune

      A nice set of run videos here courtesy of forum member Mybabym5. We have two naturally aspirated Germans going at it one with AMG M156 6.2 liter V8 power and the other with M S85 V10 power. The video quality is not that great but considering the runs we will let this one slide. The M5 features an Evolve tune with RPI catless headers, RPI exhaust, RPI pulley, RPI scoops, and the RPI oil cooler. The car previously ran an ESS tune before switching to Evolve as most people are these days.


      The C63 has has similar bolt on mods with a Eurocharged tune, catless pipes, and aftermarket filters with the charcoal element removed.

      Regardless, you see two of the best German naturally aspirated performance engines ever built going at it here. The M156 from AMG is obviously larger but the S85 V10 revs higher. Its top end takes this race and it goes to show how important revs, horsepower, and gearing are on the highway.

      Both tuners of these cars are vendors on this network so there is no stake in this race. It is simply great to see.

      Further details in the words of the M5 owner:

      Hey guys, some more fun racing videos.. This time hunting down a C63 again.

      E60 M5:

      Evolve Alpha N tune
      OEM RPI de-catted headers
      RPI GTS Exhaust
      RPI pulley
      RPI air scoops + BMC filters
      RPI oil cooler

      vs

      C63 AMG

      Fully Catless, modded with filters + charcoal delete


      Video quality is off a crap crap!!! cell phone from a friend as no go pro around..Apologizes..
      But non the less shows the modded M5 pulling nicely.

      In C63 race 1


      In M5 view race 2: C63 gets jump, M5 goes fishing
      15mph roll..


      Just want to take a moment aswell and give a Big thanks to Evolve.. Their tune is running amazing!! The power and the consistent delivery is just amazing! I am extremly happy how my car is running and performing. They make the best tunes for this V10 motor by far!

      I also wanted to give a small write up here showing how my car performed with the evolve tune vs the ESS tune against the same exact C63:

      Compare my M5 pulling against the C63 here with the evolve tune vs how my M5 pulled here with the ESS tune against the same exact C63 with same mods. With my evolve tune in the above video, I am pulling away much faster and harder than I am here.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Modded E60 M5 vs Modded C63 AMG started by Mybabym5 View original post
      Comments 69 Comments
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RNS-11Z Click here to enlarge
        That m5 does really well then!! I would of thought with those mods the c63 should of pulled harder?
        Did you read the m5 mod list?

        stage 3 evolve alpha-n m5 car is FBO Fully catless OEM Headers, rpi gts full exhaust, rpi intake scoops with oiled filters, rpi oil cooler, ESS SMG software, Underdrive pulley, alpha-n maf delete with stage 3 evolve tune revving out to 8600 rpm

        These are also 45-185 top end rolling runs which are the m5's strong point. Dig runs would have been better for the c63. Don't under estimate those v10's on a top end roll especially with alpha-n hardware/software revving to 8600rpm
      1. RNS-11Z's Avatar
        RNS-11Z -
        Yeah I read the mod list. Just my opinion. Once you get a custom tune I think youl notice a big difference and the outcome will be worst for the m5. I'm meant to be racing a m5 tonight with very similar mod list to that m5 and I only have headers and tune. Will post video and results.
      1. gzim335's Avatar
        gzim335 -
        its funny how people underestimate the e60 m5/m6,they google 1/4 miles times n think thats the whole story lol
        a bolt on s85 on the mexican autobahn is dumb fast n will hang with cars that trap 125mph
        did i mention it can hit 200mph stock delimited.
      1. 5soko's Avatar
        5soko -
        Had a fun times as always guys!! Great group of dudes with great passion for their cars! ezec63 C63 is perection on earth of AMG's! i love that $#@!ing thing! gzim335 has come together so great, by far one of my most fav 335i. mybabyM5 E60 M5 is $#@!ing fast! thing is moving... I think he gets some long tube headers and evolve intakes, it will be great races coming up, stock airboxes and stock headers decat, i think he still has power left on the table, but i think he did extremely well aganist that beast C63.. Putting together some videos now, i think mybabyM5 is gonna post in a thread.
      1. rawad1017's Avatar
        rawad1017 -
        i wish there were more enthusiasts around here with AMGs and M cars. i'm stuck with guys that think they're big $#@! with their bolt on LS1s and foxbodies Click here to enlarge
      1. johnnyblaze's Avatar
        johnnyblaze -
        Looks like the floating red blur of tail lights pulled on the other floating blur of tail lights.

        Congrats to the tail lights

        congrats on still using a phone from 1997
      1. rawad1017's Avatar
        rawad1017 -
        yeah guys if you're gonna do the iphone recording thing make sure it's a 5s and do yourself a BIG favor and get this

        http://www.rammount.com/CatalogResul...5/Default.aspx
      1. gzim335's Avatar
        gzim335 -
        C63 mods
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        I think uplaoding the vids directly to youtube on the phone would vastly improve the quality. I had a 3S that would upload a lot clearer than that. It's a simple feature on the phone. Just a thought.. I enjoyed the video and matchup regardless
      1. rawad1017's Avatar
        rawad1017 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        I think uplaoding the vids directly to youtube on the phone would vastly improve the quality. I had a 3S that would upload a lot clearer than that. It's a simple feature on the phone. Just a thought.. I enjoyed the video and matchup regardless
        uploading to computer through itunes works beautifully as well, quality isn't interrupted so that's savvy for video editing
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RNS-11Z Click here to enlarge
        Yeah I read the mod list. Just my opinion. Once you get a custom tune I think youl notice a big difference and the outcome will be worst for the m5. I'm meant to be racing a m5 tonight with very similar mod list to that m5 and I only have headers and tune. Will post video and results.
        If you run from a roll to high speeds you will be surprised the top end and gearing on the m5 is very strong. If we ran from a dig id have more of an advantage
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 5soko Click here to enlarge
        Had a fun times as always guys!! Great group of dudes with great passion for their cars! ezec63 C63 is perection on earth of AMG's! i love that $#@!ing thing! gzim335 has come together so great, by far one of my most fav 335i. mybabyM5 E60 M5 is $#@!ing fast! thing is moving... I think he gets some long tube headers and evolve intakes, it will be great races coming up, stock airboxes and stock headers decat, i think he still has power left on the table, but i think he did extremely well aganist that beast C63.. Putting together some videos now, i think mybabyM5 is gonna post in a thread.
        Absolutely !! The m5 vado put together is amazing great combo of the right mods and right tuning with proper maintenance. He def has some more power left with evolve intakes and upgraded LTH but the oem s85 headers are probably the best I've seen and amazing when it comes to oem design. It will def be interesting when we rematch i will be switching to more aggressive OE tune and will do a custom tune since I'm just running an off the shelf tune that do not take into account my Intake, full exhaust, and throttle bodies so I'm sure I still have some power I can squeeze out with Jeremy. I still want a DIG race LOL !! Honestly Its always going to be close between these 2 motors and cars. Lots of respect for the e60 m5 platform best motor BMW M has ever made and will probably ever make
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        I think uplaoding the vids directly to youtube on the phone would vastly improve the quality. I had a 3S that would upload a lot clearer than that. It's a simple feature on the phone. Just a thought.. I enjoyed the video and matchup regardless
        Yes this ! @5soko get vado to upload the video directly to youtube from his phone. This is from hagi that was sent to him so it loses quality when you send it. The m5 owner had a mount to hold the phone and it was sideways so its full quality. We also mounted a go pro in my car but it was pointed backwards and my car has 5% tints that are ontop of my old 20% tints so your not seeing anything out of it
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ezec63 Click here to enlarge
        Absolutely !! The m5 vado put together is amazing great combo of the right mods and right tuning with proper maintenance. He def has some more power left with evolve intakes and upgraded LTH but the oem s85 headers are probably the best I've seen and amazing when it comes to oem design. It will def be interesting when we rematch i will be switching to more aggressive OE tune and will do a custom tune since I'm just running an off the shelf tune that do not take into account my Intake, full exhaust, and throttle bodies so I'm sure I still have some power I can squeeze out with Jeremy. I still want a DIG race LOL !! Honestly Its always going to be close between these 2 motors and cars. Lots of respect for the e60 m5 platform best motor BMW M has ever made and will probably ever make
        Also have High rev tune with OE to try 7800rpm on dash
      1. RNS-11Z's Avatar
        RNS-11Z -
        M5 didn't show. The owner had his 8 second 160mph car out instead.

        There was a 135i on e85 modded, don't know the mods but here is a short vid
        http://instagram.com/p/qMbRbmSOV8/
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RNS-11Z Click here to enlarge
        M5 didn't show. The owner had his 8 second 160mph car out instead.

        There was a 135i on e85 modded, don't know the mods but here is a short vid
        http://instagram.com/p/qMbRbmSOV8/
        Nice stock turbo n54 don't stand a chance on the top end. M5 is a different top end beast the m5 i beat in the video walks gzim335 n54 335 FBO on E85 + Meth
      1. RNS-11Z's Avatar
        RNS-11Z -
        I've raced 1 m5 only it was fbo minus headers and I got it by 2 cars @ 130mph and still pulling. I've raced an rb turbo e85 135i on meth and won that race too. That vid is on my go pro. The 135i in this vid posted was modded but I have nfi on it. Will find out.

        When you get custom tune can you post the results? Really keen on the extra rpm but I've heard rumours some motors have blown due to it?
      1. Mthis's Avatar
        Mthis -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RNS-11Z Click here to enlarge
        I've raced 1 m5 only it was fbo minus headers and I got it by 2 cars @ 130mph and still pulling. I've raced an rb turbo e85 135i on meth and won that race too. That vid is on my go pro. The 135i in this vid posted was modded but I have nfi on it. Will find out.

        When you get custom tune can you post the results? Really keen on the extra rpm but I've heard rumours some motors have blown due to it?
        I think if motors would of blown up might have been mine that's more aggressive but it's still running g strong . The extra rpm is great.
        c63 7900 rpm:
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mthis Click here to enlarge
        I think if motors would of blown up might have been mine that's more aggressive but it's still running g strong . The extra rpm is great.
        c63 7900 rpm: http://youtu.be/UWFYxnMRYhM
        Car is a beast !!! Cant wait to try High rpm tune from OE
      1. RNS-11Z's Avatar
        RNS-11Z -
        Your car is a machine hagi. Thanks for sharing that clip.