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    • Dinan BMW N63 Twin Turbo V8 Software Tune Available for E71 X6 and F01 750



      Dinan's V8 Twin Turbo software is here. The stated gains bring the cars up to 495 horsepower and 573 pound-feet of torque. Boost is raised from 9.8 to 14 psi. Dinan does match the BMW warranty coverage which is nice. At $2999 though, they better.

      2009 - 2010 F01 750i (iMipp w/ Ethernet adaptor is required)
      495 hp @ 5000rpm
      573 ft-lbs @ 3500rpm

      2008 - 2010 E71 X6 xDrive50i (iMipp Only & Blue DCAN Adapter)
      495 hp @ 5000rpm
      573 ft-lbs @ 3500rpm
      This article was originally published in forum thread: Dinan N63 Twin Turbo V8 Software Tune Available for E71 X6 and F01 750 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alextremo Click here to enlarge
        I've done some quick searches and have found some others:

        Hennessey: +50HP/+60TQ - $1,995
        Hartge: +90HP/+81TQ - $??
        Active: +60HP/+50TQ - $1,200

        Seems like for what's available Dinan is near the top in terms of (claimed) performance. Maybe this will change if one or two of the piggyback tuners get in the game, or someone like GIAC or Cobb, but I'm not likely to be patient enough to wait Click here to enlarge
        This is just the beginning of tuning so all the flash tunes are going to be in about the same spot.

        Dinan does not provide dynos so we go by their crank figures. For the N54 for example most of the piggy's and flashes outperform what they have available. Also, no meth options with Dinan unless you do it yourself. They tend to be conservative which many like.
      1. m54b25's Avatar
        m54b25 -
        Didn't DINAN use on the Rolex Prototype engine a Ferrari based/derived 4.3L engine instead of the traditional BMW S62 5.0L?

        Reply to quote "The Chip Ganassi thing is really going to improve their image big time. Their street car stuff is still way too mild but you know it is solid."
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
        Didn't DINAN use on the Rolex Prototype engine a Ferrari derived 4.3L engine instead of the traditional BMW S62 5.0L?
        Not sure if it was an S62 but I believe it was a BMW 5.0 liter as that is one of the approved engines.
      1. alextremo's Avatar
        alextremo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This is just the beginning of tuning so all the flash tunes are going to be in about the same spot.

        Dinan does not provide dynos so we go by their crank figures. For the N54 for example most of the piggy's and flashes outperform what they have available. Also, no meth options with Dinan unless you do it yourself. They tend to be conservative which many like.
        Yeah - I don't really get that. After writing that lengthy white paper on how they are Dyno gods and everyone else has no idea what they're doing, you would think they would at least publish the results of their OCD dyno testing from their facility. I wonder what their justification is for marketing peak HP/TQ numbers, which must have been derived from dyno testing, and not showing the charts.

        Anyway, I don't think that's going to stop me from giving it a go. I can always have it flashed back to stock if something materially better comes along. I plan to do before and after dyno's same day, same dyno when I take the plunge.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        AA FTW
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alextremo Click here to enlarge
        IDK, +95hp and +123lb-ft over stock for flash only doesn't seem mild to me. Makes me wonder if these engines are even more de-tuned from the factory than the N54 (and also what we'll see if they come out with Stage 2/3 with additional hardware)

        +95 hp is not aggressive for a twin turbo V8 that already makes 400 hp. Thats only a 25% gain, which is a typical tune. Dont look at the number, but the proportion.
      1. alextremo's Avatar
        alextremo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        +95 hp is not aggressive for a twin turbo V8 that already makes 400 hp. Thats only a 25% gain, which is a typical tune. Dont look at the number, but the proportion.
        I'm not arguing that others won't make more power at some point, all I'm saying is that to pick up 95hp and 123tq without any bolt ons is not mild compared to what else is available.

        Also - I understand your point on % gain, I agree you might be able to use this number to guess how much is left on the table. But adding 95hp to a TT-V8 has the same effect on end performance as adding 95hp to an TT-I6, weight aside...
      1. GT3's Avatar
        GT3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        AA FTW
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alextremo Click here to enlarge
        After writing that lengthy white paper on how they are Dyno gods and everyone else has no idea what they're doing, you would think they would at least publish the results of their OCD dyno testing from their facility.
        That has me scratching my head as well.
      1. Stahlgrau's Avatar
        Stahlgrau -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Definitely, that is the nature of modding forced induction. The S54 is hitting 1000 whp though when all these BMW turbo motors are out, how come? The E46 M3 isn't easy to mod but because the motor is so good in NA form if you have $ it is the better platform to mod for power.

        Well, to be fair, the S54 requires an engine build and lowered compression to be reliably capable of anything over 650rwhp. As I pointed out in another thread...it doesn't come cheap and apparently, only one company seems to be dedicated to mass producing a reliable turbo setup. The S/C systems aren't anywhere close to 1000whp. Not even 650rwhp, if I'm not mistaken.

        I won't be surprised if these BMW ///M turbo motors are capable of some pretty big numbers with stock motors and at half the cost of the HPF E46 M3 offerings. There will be a lot more tuners involved.
      1. MSIZZLE's Avatar
        MSIZZLE -
        how could 95hp tune be mild?? can you guys show some more aggressive base stage 1 tunes??
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
        Well, to be fair, the S54 requires an engine build and lowered compression to be reliably capable of anything over 650rwhp
        This is true but logical that for forced induction the compression needs to be dropped from a motor that is high compression in NA form. We also never saw the S54 with a thicker head gasket...

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
        The S/C systems aren't anywhere close to 1000whp. Not even 650rwhp, if I'm not mistaken.
        Nowhere near 1000 whp and they never will be but 650 with a built motor and SC is possible.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stahlgrau Click here to enlarge
        I won't be surprised if these BMW ///M turbo motors are capable of some pretty big numbers with stock motors and at half the cost of the HPF E46 M3 offerings.
        For HP per $ factory forced induction always wins.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
        how could 95hp tune be mild?? can you guys show some more aggressive base stage 1 tunes??
        The N63 pushes 11.7 pounds of boost vs. 17.6 for the S63. Far more headroom with a tune on the N63. Dinan is conservative so goes to show that 95 (crank) hp is not the limit of what one can gain.

        Just look at all the other Dinan products, solid and conservative.
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        Well in that case a cummins diesel can pick up 200 hp with just a chip, and thats mild... You guys are missing the point, 95 hp for a 400 hp turbo V8 is not a huge gain; respectable but not huge. The N54 can pick up almost that with just a tune and intake and it starts out with 300 and less displacement.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        Well in that case a cummins diesel can pick up 200 hp with just a chip, and thats mild... You guys are missing the point, 95 hp for a 400 hp turbo V8 is not a huge gain; respectable but not huge. The N54 can pick up almost that with just a tune and intake and it starts out with 300 and less displacement.
        Exactly...
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        Well in that case a cummins diesel can pick up 200 hp with just a chip, and thats mild... You guys are missing the point, 95 hp for a 400 hp turbo V8 is not a huge gain; respectable but not huge. The N54 can pick up almost that with just a tune and intake and it starts out with 300 and less displacement.
        well N63 isn't that common , you can find N54 in every BMW platform except X1 , so it's far more easy to access for tuners than N63
        and N63 is available for expensive BMW's therefore tuners don't do some aggressive tunes on cars
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by HeroSina Click here to enlarge
        well N63 isn't that common , you can find N54 in every BMW platform except X1 , so it's far more easy to access for tuners than N63
        and N63 is available for expensive BMW's therefore tuners don't do some aggressive tunes on cars
        The N63 is going to be in just as many models than the N54, actually more now with it being phased out. That isn't a handicap.