• 6-speed manual Gintani Stage 2 supercharged E92 M3 vs. 6-speed manual single turbo BMS tuned N54 E92 335i from a roll

      Videos of single turbo N54's going up against supercharged E9X M3's are hard to come by so we will forgive the low cell phone video quality here as you can still clearly see what happens. The camera car is a single turbo E9X 335i with a Garrett GT37R single turbo conversion pushing roughly 22 psi. The red E92 M3 features a Gintani Stage 2 supercharger system at 7.5 psi of boost. Both cars have 6-speed manual transmissions.


      The first run is a second gear roll and the 335 gets a slight jump. The M3 quickly pulls even and past it though and continues to pull into the higher gears. A fairly-one sided race.

      The next run is a higher speed roll starting in 3rd gear. The M3 jumps on the second honk so this time it has an early lead. Due to this it quickly puts a few car lengths on the 335 and once the M3 flashes its lights the race is over.

      Highway pulls like this will favor the top end of the M3 as any torque advantage the 335 has is mitigated by the gearing and revs. Keeping in mind this is a centrifugal supercharger on the M3 and boost builds with the revs so winding it out only helps.

      There are obviously stronger examples of 335's as well as M3's out there but this type of highway race generally favors an M3.

      2008 BMW M3 (E92) 6MT
      Gintani Stage 2 Supercharger
      H&R Race Springs
      275 -Toyo R888 (Rears)
      RPI X-Pipe
      OEM Rear Section
      Style 219 OEM Wheels
      505whp on a DD - Approx. 560whp on dynojet.


      BMW 335i (E92) 6MT
      JB4-G5
      Single Turbo Garrett GT37R
      BBS LM Reps
      FBO
      OEM Secondarys
      OEM Rear Section
      Made: 619whp on a race file
      -580whp time of the race.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Supercharged S65 vs. Single Turbo N54 started by RnmEvo9 View original post
      Comments 203 Comments
      1. ChuckD05's Avatar
        ChuckD05 -
        it seems like the single turbo n54 do not show there power on the street , makes me wonder how strong the tuning really is, how it holds up on the street
      1. govr46's Avatar
        govr46 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
        it seems like the single turbo n54 do not show there power on the street , makes me wonder how strong the tuning really is, how it holds up on the street
        Wasn't that just a street race i watched?
        Looks like the single turbo N54 did great.
      1. ChuckD05's Avatar
        ChuckD05 -
        I am not sure what a gintani stage 2 car puts down but he just walked the 335 by 4+ cars in a few seconds.
      1. 135idct's Avatar
        135idct -
        something wrong with the 335i, 335i with rb turbos can do better than the one in the vid!
      1. 135idct's Avatar
        135idct -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
        I am not sure what a gintani stage 2 car puts down but he just walked the 335 by 4+ cars in a few seconds.
        560whp on dynojet, look at the details under the vid, both cars MT
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        Article incoming in 3....2....1.
      1. bigdnno98's Avatar
        bigdnno98 -
        ^^^LMFAO!!! you're probably right though hahaha
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        LOL, pretty sure this was already front paged about 4-5 months ago.
      1. LockedUp's Avatar
        LockedUp -
        wow, what a horrible showing for the 335
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        I'd be interested to know the details of this 335, what kit, how much boost, tune, etc. A SC s65 is very quick, there is literally no lag, instant power and it screams to redline....with a dct it would have been worse. Without details on the 335 though, who knows....
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Saw this video a few weeks ago. Can't really say much besides the fact an idiot would put a gt37r on this car. It's been rated one of the worst turbo choices and horrible lag next to the gt40r. The n54 needs a new turbo setup.
      1. Ak335i's Avatar
        Ak335i -
        LOL @22psi needs moar boost pls
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Cake walked.
      1. VargasTurboTech's Avatar
        VargasTurboTech -
        Since no body knows whos N54 that is, its running a very oversized GT37 who knows what model turbo, and no one has any idea who tuned it, my guess is that car is not running anywhere near its potential, a stage 2 SC'd M3 isn't walking away from an N54 putting down a legit 700WHP from a roll, that's just a fact
      1. Ak335i's Avatar
        Ak335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
        Since no body knows whos N54 that is, its running a very oversized GT37 who knows what model turbo, and no one has any idea who tuned it, my guess is that car is not running anywhere near its potential, a stage 2 SC'd M3 isn't walking away from an N54 putting down a legit 700WHP from a roll, that's just a fact

        theres supposed to be the one SC M3 down here but still cant get a run.. he called me out then changed his mind a while back
      1. VargasTurboTech's Avatar
        VargasTurboTech -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ak335i Click here to enlarge
        theres supposed to be the one SC M3 down here but still cant get a run.. he called me out then changed his mind a while back
        He would get stomped, your AT would make it even worse for him
      1. Ak335i's Avatar
        Ak335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
        He would get stomped, your AT would make it even worse for him
        maybe he googled me LoL
      1. rooringhusky's Avatar
        rooringhusky -
        Some more detailed here guys (pulled from Youtube Description):

        2008 BMW M3 (E92) 6MT
        Gintani Stage 2 Supercharger
        H&R Race Springs
        275 -Toyo R888 (Rears)
        RPI X-Pipe
        OEM Rear Section
        Style 219 OEM Wheels
        505whp on a DD - Approx. 560whp on dynojet.


        BMW 335i (E92) 6MT
        JB4-G5
        Single Turbo Garrett GT37R
        BBS LM Reps
        FBO
        OEM Secondarys
        OEM Rear Section
        Made: 619whp on a race file
        -580whp time of the race.

        Honestly that turbo isn't even breathing yet...It did pretty decent in my opinion all things considered...With the 619whp map it might just be pulling ahead who knows...Heavy ass BBS LM Reps arent helping vs. the M3's rims and neither is the OEM Exhaust with Secondaries still in...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Videos of single turbo N54's going up against supercharged E9X M3's are hard to come by so we will forgive the low cell phone video quality here as you can still clearly see what happens. The camera car is a single turbo E9X 335i with a Garrett GT37R single turbo conversion pushing roughly 22 psi. The red E92 M3 features a Gintani Stage 2 supercharger system at 7.5 psi of boost. Both cars have 6-speed manual transmissions.

        Click here to enlarge

        The first run is a second gear roll and the 335 gets a slight jump. The M3 quickly pulls even and past it though and continues to pull into the higher gears. A fairly-one sided race.

        The next run is a higher speed roll starting in 3rd gear. The M3 jumps on the second honk so this time it has an early lead. Due to this it quickly puts a few car lengths on the 335 and once the M3 flashes its lights the race is over.

        Highway pulls like this will favor the top end of the M3 as any torque advantage the 335 has is mitigated by the gearing and revs. Keeping in mind this is a centrifugal supercharger on the M3 and boost builds with the revs so winding it out only helps.

        There are obviously stronger examples of 335's as well as M3's out there but this type of highway race generally favors an M3.

        2008 BMW M3 (E92) 6MT
        Gintani Stage 2 Supercharger
        H&R Race Springs
        275 -Toyo R888 (Rears)
        RPI X-Pipe
        OEM Rear Section
        Style 219 OEM Wheels
        505whp on a DD - Approx. 560whp on dynojet.


        BMW 335i (E92) 6MT
        JB4-G5
        Single Turbo Garrett GT37R
        BBS LM Reps
        FBO
        OEM Secondarys
        OEM Rear Section
        Made: 619whp on a race file
        -580whp time of the race.

      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        LOL, pretty sure this was already front paged about 4-5 months ago.
        Was it?