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    • 10 Reasons not to get caught up in the E82 1M Coupe Hype

      People have been getting a bit carried away with this 1M hype. BMW reveals part of a fender and everyone "ooohs" and "aaahs" as if the messiah of the motoring world was revealed. Recently, BMWblog posted an article, "Top 10 Reasons Why The 1M Will Rock Your World." We asked BMWblog on twitter what about presenting the other side for a balanced view and were rebuked with, "They can start their own top 10." So, that is exactly what we did.

      Top 10 Reasons to not get caught up in the 1M Coupe Hype:

      1. The 1M brings the M brand downscale. It essentially completes the dilution of the brand. There was a time where BMW was apprehensive of putting the M badge on just anything and did not want to be like AMG in this respect. M stood for something and was special, it was not a badge you would often see.

      2. Rumors are it is manual only. Why? What is with this inconsistency from BMW? They have been shoving paddle shifters down our throats since the dawn of SMG and now all of a sudden they want to show that the manual is "pure?" Well what message is this sending for the M5/M6 which will be DCT only just like the the E60 M5 was SMG only for the rest of the world? Is it truly manual only to keep it "pure" or to keep it from encroaching on M3 territory as well as keeping the cost down? So the next generation M5/M6 will not be pure? Huh?

      3. It is coming at the end of the E82 lifespan. Market reach will be very limited which potentially limits aftermarket engine development due to the small base as well as coming with BMW's new anti-tuning measures.

      4. Outdated before it hits. The next generation 1 series is already testing, this model was done with before this car even came out.

      5. Performance will be kept in check on purpose to not step on the toes of the M3. This car will not be as good as it can be out of the gate.

      6. You can exceed the performance today with a 135i with an aftermarket LSD, coil-overs, and a JB3 tune from BMS, exceeding the performance significantly for less money. Not to mention you can get a DCT.

      7. Marks the end of naturally aspirated motors for M cars, namely the inline-6's that BMW M made their name with. No matter what they do to the motor, it will never be as impressive or respond as well as an S54, stock or modified.

      8. This model represents BMW abandoning its principles for profit and volume. This is no longer the company that made every M model special and was the small guy taking on the big names. Now BMW can just take any base motor, up the boost, stiffen the suspension, change the bumper, and call it an M. This is the beginning of a giant whose goal is simply to destroy everything in its path. They sacrificed their soul for monetary gain and M ideals for marketing.

      9. Just will not be a true M, no matter how hard they try to convince us it is. The younger audience won't care, but the hardcore M fans will. A real M car has a naturally aspirated motor that screams with instant response begging to be revved. A real M has a motor not available in base models. A real M does not take shortcuts. We don't care how BMW tries to spin this, they know it is the truth and what was just stated is exactly what they used to once state.

      10. This car will be superb, but it marks the end of an era. It marks the end of an era where M's were rare and special. Cars that had motors that won endless awards due to their engineering prowess in squeezing out every last naturally aspirated horse. Cars that did not take shortcuts. BMW will now be able to get away with simply taking base motors and adding more boost, calling them M's. It will no doubt handle well, look good, and be fun to drive. To those of you who don't truly care about history or tradition, it will bring you joy. For us though, this car is bittersweet.

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      This article was originally published in forum thread: 10 Reasons not to get caught up in the E82 1M Coupe Hype started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 69 Comments
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I think that is a possible scenario on a tighter track.

        The GTS will ultimately be faster than either the base M3 or the 1 M coupe. We will see, direct comparisons are inevitable.
        No one cares about the GTS, its not available in the US. Anyways the 1m is going to be faster than the m3 around the track and most definitely quicker in the 1/4 mile with very little tunning.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        No one cares about the GTS, its not available in the US. Anyways the 1m is going to be faster than the m3 around the track and most definitely quicker in the 1/4 mile with very little tunning.
        yes Franklin
      1. Fuerza's Avatar
        Fuerza -
        1. Why do you think they are downscaling M? I highly doubt this car will be sold for less than 50k. That is still a lot of money to many buyers.
        2. The only thing "Pure" IMO is the speculation.
        3-4. Build it and they will come. Perhaps it is a test water for the future. This car will be embraced, parts will happen even in low builds that creates a uniqueness that others will love and the "mass" produced M owners will hate.
        5. M3 is the benchmark sports car, it out performs the M6. What makes you think that wont happen in the future?
        6. Not with a warranty.
        7. Welcome to Bimmerboost!
        8. I see them as keeping pace with other car manufacturers world wide, SRT, AMG. BMW didn't start that war, they are just joining the fight!
        9. Hardcore fan's. The BMW 2002 Turbo was launched at the 1973 was BMW's first production turbo, it produced 170 hp (127 kW) at 5,800 rpm, with 240 Nm (180 lbft) of torque. IMO History is just repeating itself.
        10. A new "Beginning" is upon us.

        Sorry, if I sounds like I'm taking pop shots Sticky. I think this will be a great car. At least I hope.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        I think whoever neg repped me is a homo, and the 1M is gay as well.
        GG, read this please: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...1516#post51516
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Adgar Click here to enlarge
        Sorry, if I sounds like I'm taking pop shots Sticky.
        Not at all.

        New beginning is the key word. The question will be, is it a better era?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        No one cares about the GTS, its not available in the US. Anyways the 1m is going to be faster than the m3 around the track and most definitely quicker in the 1/4 mile with very little tunning.
        It not being in the US is yet another problem but we can delve into that later. Does not change the fact this won't be out lapping that particular M3, which is what the M3 really should have been.

        Any forced induction car will be quicker than the M3 with little tuning. It isn't a fair comparison. The M3 with an SC though will be out of reach. So what do you want, cheap tuning, or ultimately more power? I made my choice.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It not being in the US is yet another problem but we can delve into that later. Does not change the fact this won't be out lapping that particular M3, which is what the M3 really should have been.

        Any forced induction car will quicker than the M3 with little tuning. It isn't a fair comparison. The M3 with an SC though will be out of reach. So what do you want, cheap tuning, or ultimately more power? I made my choice.
        Well as it is It appears that with the 1m you can have both cheap power and ultimately more power. You say a M3 with SC would be out of reach but the 1M is probably going to get and aftermarket turbo/turbos shortly after it goes on sale and its going to blow a supercharged m3 out of the water.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Here is a rendering for those picturing the look:

        Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        Well as it is It appears that with the 1m you can have both cheap power and ultimately more power. You say a M3 with SC would be out of reach but the 1M is probably going to get and aftermarket turbo/turbos shortly after it goes on sale and its going to blow a supercharged m3 out of the water.
        Hahahah, what? Frank, you have no idea what you are talking about.

        Yes, an M3 with SC will be out of reach. You are limited with fueling on the DI motors, it isn't like an EVO or STI where you just strap on a bigger turbo and bigger injectors. I won't even get into the fuel pump issues when taxing the fuel system.

        Plus, SC M3's are very fast, I don't think you understand what you are saying. There is no such thing as more power than an SC M3 on an N54 for "cheap." Even upgraded turbos are still short by 100+ whp, and that is with M3's on single digit boost. Wait until you see what is in store.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ok thanks for that bit of info. Click here to enlarge The 1M is ok, but nothing special. A.K.A not an M
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        The 1M is ok, but nothing special. A.K.A not an M
        I agree with this, it is different, a nice car and all, but it isn't an E30 M3. People making that comparison are insane as are the people saying this thing is "pure" and "light." Is is neither.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I agree with this, it is different, a nice car and all, but it isn't an E30 M3. People making that comparison are insane as are the people saying this thing is "pure" and "light." Is is neither.
        Correct no where near the e30 m3, and the 1M will do nothing in motorsports.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Hahahah, what? Frank, you have no idea what you are talking about.

        Yes, an M3 with SC will be out of reach. You are limited with fueling on the DI motors, it isn't like an EVO or STI where you just strap on a bigger turbo and bigger injectors. I won't even get into the fuel pump issues when taxing the fuel system.

        Plus, SC M3's are very fast, I don't think you understand what you are saying. There is no such thing as more power than an SC M3 on an N54 for "cheap." Even upgraded turbos are still short by 100+ whp, and that is with M3's on single digit boost. Wait until you see what is in store.
        LOL I keep hearing this. What is in store enlighten me please!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        LOL I keep hearing this. What is in store enlighten me please!
        I'm not sure what you mean you keep hearing, that is what things are like right now. You really think you are going to upgrade a turbo and all of a sudden have 600+ whp, which is what it would take to run with an SC M3? The fueling system doesn't even support that kind of power output, not like BMW is going to redesign it or abandon direct injection for this car.

        Regarding what is in store, lower compression M3's. When M3's get low compression, rape occurs, to paraphrase others.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        I will say the e36 m3 can be modded easier then most car's mentioned here, and is lighter/more fun. With age these cars gain weight, and make them some what less fun. Easier tuning is more fun. Its annoying that the n54 based cars have many issues with going to big power with failing pumps, and next to impossible to get larger injectors. Makes children weep at night like a beeping Hpf car.
      1. 600whp S4's Avatar
        600whp S4 -
        The e36 was a great car one of the best M models to date...... If you lived in germany we got a non pure and a M52 base motor with a set of cams and a stroker crank....
      1. black bnr32's Avatar
        black bnr32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        and the 1M will do nothing in motorsports.
        This is interesting. Are any race teams (like say Turner Motorsports) switching from the 3er chassis to the 1er? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
        The e36 was a great car one of the best M models to date...... If you lived in germany we got a non pure and a M52 base motor with a set of cams and a stroker crank....
        Correct, but its great for boost. Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
        This is interesting. Are any race teams (like say Turner Motorsports) switching from the 3er chassis to the 1er? I can't think of any off the top of my head.
        Correct.Click here to enlarge
      1. Scorpion's Avatar
        Scorpion -
        Hope it's not to bubbly looking from the side.
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        You all need to STFU. Your bickering over this car is worthless. If BMW sucks so much, quit f*cking buying them. Instead of making your own 10 reasons to $#@!, go make your own car company and make all the decisions. I'm not interested in the 1M but damn. I just wasted like 10 minutes reading bull$#@!.