• HPF Stage 2 Turbo S54 versus Active Autowerke supercharged S65 - E46 M3 versus E92 M3 - Torque versus horsepower

      Interesting race here showing the difference between two forced induction options offering different power curves. The Horsepower Freaks (RIP) Stage 2 Turbo E46 M3 in the video is definitely making more torque than the Active Autowerke Gen II Level III supercharged E92 M3. But, the E92 M3 is making its torque peak toward redline and having extra revs over the S54 inline-6 in the E46 M3 definitely shows its strength here as the supercharged E92 M3 is able to beat the turbocharged E46 M3.

      Both cars have meth injection and both are on the stock engine internals. The E46 M3 is slightly lighter but the E92 M3 has the quicker shifting transmission. The supercharged car wins this round no doubt causing a lot of turbo E46 M3 owners proclaiming superiority due to peak torque figures to scratch their heads. It's where you make the horsepower that counts in a roll on race and combine a strong top end with a quick shifting dual clutch and you have the result you see here.

      It will be interesting to see what happens when built motor E92 M3 S65 V8's go up against built motor E46 M3 S54 inline-6's. BimmerBoost will be sure to make that comparison happen.



      This article was originally published in forum thread: AA E92 LvL 3 VS Widebody HPF Level 2 started by Andrew@activeautowerke View original post
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      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well hey then we can run! Just have to figure out the logistics.
        So how come you won't come to the East Coast?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        So how come you won't come to the East Coast?
        Who said I wouldn't? How is me not indulging some idiotic baiting call out when my car isn't ready meaning attending to race is an impossibility equated to never going to the East Coast?
      1. SexiPYm3's Avatar
        SexiPYm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I should be confident as I have a better understanding of the two platforms and how they compare I believe. I'll come to them if I have to. One way or another the comparison between these motors will happen and for years to come. It's all in good fun or it should be.

        There are a good number of turbo E46's to choose from.
        How many turbo cars have you OWNED? I'm pretty sure your e46 M3 wasn't turbo
      1. alex@ABRhouston's Avatar
        alex@ABRhouston -
        I just wanna go fast, that's all.

        i scared 3 people in my car today, I felt satisfied in that lol
      1. Mike@VAC's Avatar
        Mike@VAC -
        Aren't turbo E36s still KING? Radowski, ICS George?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SexiPYm3 Click here to enlarge
        How many turbo cars have you OWNED? I'm pretty sure your e46 M3 wasn't turbo
        Just because my E46 M3 wasn't turbo doesn't mean I don't know turbo E46 M3 performance. It's kind of what I do.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
        Aren't turbo E36s still KING? Radowski, ICS George?
        Yes, they're the fastest. Other than insane S38's in whatever they are swapped into by the Scandinavians.
      1. SexiPYm3's Avatar
        SexiPYm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
        Aren't turbo E36s still KING? Radowski, ICS George?
        That would be correct at the quarter. I think the 60-130 goes to the e46 m3. The fastest e46 m3 has more power now and may be able to break the 9.5x run by Radowski.
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ya with AA changing hardware throughout the cycle as they do different names become necessary. Their E46 M3 setups underwent a lot of revisions as well. I don't even know what "Gen" they are up to now.
        Coming up on Gen 8 now. Been doing this for awhile lol
      1. hsvturbo's Avatar
        hsvturbo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
        I just wanna go fast, that's all.

        i scared 3 people in my car today, I felt satisfied in that lol
        You should get in touch with fbodyfreak on YouTube. I believe they are located in houston and he is constantly posting on YouTube. It seem they race every weekend lol. I believe he could match your e36 up with a good race.
      1. alex@ABRhouston's Avatar
        alex@ABRhouston -
        yea- i can find 1000 hp cars in houston actually pretty easy... but BMW's are another story. only a few big horsepower BMW's are around here (as far as i can see)..


        I'm working on the cleanest E39 M5 i have seen in forever.....and from the owner I did hear mention of a alpine E36 single turbo that supposed to make some power right down from the shop- he told him to swing on by Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
        yea- i can find 1000 hp cars in houston actually pretty easy... but BMW's are another story. only a few big horsepower BMW's are around here (as far as i can see)..


        I'm working on the cleanest E39 M5 i have seen in forever.....and from the owner I did hear mention of a alpine E36 single turbo that supposed to make some power right down from the shop- he told him to swing on by Click here to enlarge
        1000+ HP BMW's are rare in general.
      1. alex@ABRhouston's Avatar
        alex@ABRhouston -
        Well, yea. But there are lots of American v8s around here that pop 1000 in Houston.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
        Well, yea. But there are lots of American v8s around here that pop 1000 in Houston.
        There will always be more higher horsepower American V8's than BMW's. Always.
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@PTF Click here to enlarge
        Why does this video seem like it was fast forwarded for some reason? LOL
        (insert mother russia joke)