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    • The final nail in the MHP (Modern Horsepower / Andrew Cluck) "tuner" coffin? MHP business done? MHP M156 63 AMG "records" actually belong to another tuner

      MHP. Modern Horsepower. Andrew Cluck. These names are all known on the Mercedes-Benz forums but for the wrong reasons. For years, MHP has used forums to try to push their products stating they are the best and using drag racing records as the reasoning for this "supposed" superiority. The truth of the matter is, MHP was not doing their own M156 / 63 AMG tuning others were doing it for them which Mr. Cluck would then essentially re-sell at a premium and take credit for.


      If one went to the source they could get the exact same thing for less money. There literally is no reason to pay any extra money so that Andy can take his cut to then spend on forum advertising to try and get more and more people to fall for this same trap. Modern Horsepower has been thrown off several forums due to their tactics including this one.

      Andy is simply too difficult to deal with and uses dirty tricks to get his way. This includes multiple screennames trying to sway a discussion his way as well as asking to have an ability to pay to ban users implemented. Don't believe it? Take his own word for it then:




      What makes this latest episode most amusing is the tuner that MHP had to ask for help. That tuner is BenzBoost premier vendor Weistec. Yes, the same Weistec that has the record for the fastest Mercedes-Benz vehicle as well as the first company to supercharge the 63 AMG V8 motor. An accomplished tuner at the top of the Mercedes game.

      So what makes this funny? Well, how Andrew Cluck / MHP would put Weistec and their customers down behind their backs only to have to result to begging them for help once his other tuner told him essentially to kiss off after being sick of dealing with him just as basically anyone else who has dealt with him has:




      So Andy calls Weistec's work garbage, says they screwed over their customer (this same customer who claims MHP owes him something around a couple grand which has not been paid to this day), that they don't know what they are doing, and then ends up turning to Weistec to bail him out. Unbelievable really, isn't it? But hey, that's who Andrew Cluck is. It's right there, in his own words and actions.


      So why was Andy forced to work with a tuner he bashed behind the scenes? Because everyone else was sick of him. Literally, EVERYONE. People just had their fill of his BS and this is why he was banned from MBWorld, removed from here, and even forums that have nothing to do with Mercedes motors. Techtec is who Modern Horsepower used previously and they simply told him to get lost:


      When you go after just about everyone yelling and screaming on forums you eventually burn every last bridge. That is exactly what MHP managed to do. Makes you wonder how they even had business in the first place?

      Well, it's this use of "record" 1/4 mile runs that get people's attention. MHP specifically targets cold weather with the best possible negative density altitude to get record runs that don't apply to areas with warm weather. This is the selling point though and it worked for quite some time. Numbers make eyes light up and wallets open up.

      When MHP called out EVOMS to race, it ended up never happening even though EVOMS accepted due to MHP not wanting to deal with the Arizona weather which is a level playing field for two cars at the same time. MHP didn't go because the times would not match what was achieved on the East Coast:




      Ladies and gentlemen, this is being brought to your attention for several reasons. First of all, I wish to commend Weistec for helping out enthusiasts in need of tuning help. They could have easily just washed their hands of MHP and its customers hanging the "record holders" (one of whom was trying to get tuning for his aftermarket cams) out to dry. Instead, they helped him. That's just the way Weistec is, they will help you and do their absolute best no matter who you are. With it finally becoming public knowledge (Where are these M156 "record" holders to tell the truth about who really did the tuning? Where is their honor?) that Weistec did the tuning this matter can be publicly discussed. Also, credit can finally be given to the real record holders.

      Secondly, it is way overdue for the Mercedes-Benz and AMG tuning scene to move on from MHP. Andy has failed, been thrown out of basically every forum he tried to advertise on, and it's time to just move on. After meeting Andy in person last year I finally understood the mentality that caused so many issues for so many people. He even tried to take credit for my work on BenzBoost basically claiming his presence built it (claiming credit for the work of others seems to be a pattern). The man literally said he could throw me and anyone he wanted out of a window and then get them put in jail because "it's Ohio" and he knows the right people. This is not a mentally balanced person and yes this really happened.

      There is no reason to go to a middleman for a markup on tuning products that can be purchased directly. Exhaust products, tunes, whatever really. There is no reason to deal with MHP. Enough is enough (and believe me there is a TON more that can get posted but is it even necessary at this point?), good riddance Andy. Karma can be a you know what. Good thing you have plenty of diapers to dry those tears with. It's over.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: The final nail in the MHP (Modern Horsepower / Andrew Cluck) "tuner" coffin? MHP business done? MHP M156 63 AMG "records" actually belong to another tuner started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        I think it's interesting that Keith has remained quiet during all of this considering he is MHP's poster client with all the "records".
        I think that is very interesting especially with how he tries to portray himself morally.

        Not everything is as it seems.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fast Lane Click here to enlarge
        This is really amusing. I did mention in a previous thread that I called Mr. Cluck to purchase some products from him. I wanted to get some headers from him for my CLK. He didnt have a set that "his fabricators" make for the CLK. He told me that he could provide the best tuning for my engine control module. I explained to him that I am from San Diego and Weistec would be a better option for me. He actually laughed, really guys laughed and told me that they cant provide better tuning then what he could offer and told me to think about it carefully, I was like....OK. I'm the one laughing now knowing that he had their software tuning for his customers. He also lied to me and told me that his ECU tuning is done in coordination with some partners he has in Europe.
        This may have been when he originally was using European guys as Techtec is originally European based with Techtec USA now running strong.

        I wouldn't call them his partners though Click here to enlarge
      1. Fast Lane's Avatar
        Fast Lane -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This may have been when he originally was using European guys as Techtec is originally European based with Techtec USA now running strong.

        I wouldn't call them his partners though Click here to enlarge
        Absoloutely not. This was three months ago. So long after the Techtec clash.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Fast Lane Click here to enlarge
        Absoloutely not. This was three months ago. So long after the Techtec clash.
        Don't know what to say to that as they threw him out in 2011...
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        I'm really surprised that nobody in the United States took that douchebag on some legal counts and placed him in front of a judge and thrown his a$$ in jail afterwards.


        Where I'm from, he wouldnt last 2 months with this BS buisness. Authorities would be all over his basement. In fact, if he had dealt with some ceratin customers, he would be missing and no where to be found Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        I'm really surprised that nobody in the United States took that douchebag on some legal counts and placed him in front of a judge and thrown his a$$ in jail afterwards.Where I'm from, he wouldnt last 2 months with this BS buisness. Authorities would be all over his basement. In fact, if he had dealt with some ceratin customers, he would be missing and no where to be found Click here to enlarge
        The US ain't what it used to be.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Sticky any chance we can see those big ole boobies without the tee shirt on?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Sticky any chance we can see those big ole boobies without the tee shirt on?
        You guys always have your priorities straight.

        I think her boyfriend would be mad at me...
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Well,give him a free hoodie&some BB stickers to sweeten the pot and maybe he will be Ok with it? Click here to enlarge
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        I don't like how he treated some customers and scammed them out of thier dollars. Really cheap method.
      1. Sirex63's Avatar
        Sirex63 -
        Great article @Sticky . Thanks for posting this.

        I am one of many who defrauded them Andy in the UAE, Gulf and Middle East due to some records that he took and still taking advantage using these records to attract new customers. Though it was late, but thank God I learnt my lesson.

        I wish with all next on modifying there rides not to deal with such a "hustler".

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sirex63 Click here to enlarge
        Great article @Sticky . Thanks for posting this.

        I am one of many who defrauded them Andy in the UAE, Gulf and Middle East due to some records that he took and still taking advantage using these records to attract new customers. Though it was late, but thank God I learnt my lesson.

        I wish with all next on modifying there rides not to deal with such a "hustler"

        http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo.../307qlwz-1.jpg
        No offense bro middle east is easy to take advamtage of. Just have my back when I come out. Going big.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        No offense bro middle east is easy to take advamtage of. Just have my back when I come out. Going big.
        LOL come on over. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        LOL come on over. Click here to enlarge
        I know you got me but I want an epic trip.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I know you got me but I want an epic trip.
        I can gurantee a culturally nice time but I dont go out partying in Bahrain. BUT having said that i sure the boys from Bahrain Supercar Club will take you out on my behalf Click here to enlarge
      1. Portman's Avatar
        Portman -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sirex63 Click here to enlarge
        Great article @Sticky . Thanks for posting this.

        I am one of many who defrauded them Andy in the UAE, Gulf and Middle East due to some records that he took and still taking advantage using these records to attract new customers. Though it was late, but thank God I learnt my lesson.

        I wish with all next on modifying there rides not to deal with such a "hustler".

        http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo.../307qlwz-1.jpg
        Someone should shoot that bastard and throw him off a cliff.
      1. Portman's Avatar
        Portman -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        No offense bro middle east is easy to take advamtage of
        Only once. Thats because we trust Americans a lot, but when we see a 5hitface like Andy around, you can bet we won't get fooled again. I raped all of his customers here around Qatar and Doha. Kind of funny when he told them that they would spank me
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Portman Click here to enlarge
        Only once. Thats because we trust Americans a lot, but when we see a 5hitface like Andy around, you can bet we won't get fooled again. I raped all of his customers here around Qatar and Doha. Kind of funny when he told them that they would spank me
        Shame you dont trust your own people like us over in Bahrain. A lot of my friends get ripped off big time before coming and buying through 0-60. Shame you guys have to go through that.
      1. Portman's Avatar
        Portman -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        Shame you dont trust your own people like us over in Bahrain. A lot of my friends get ripped off big time before coming and buying through 0-60. Shame you guys have to go through that.
        Thats because In Bahrain your all a bunch of Con Artists trying to take advantage as well. No Offense, but I got quoted for Caragraphic Headers for my C63 for 30000 riyals. I basically told the guy to go scam someone else and I ain't a retard you bastard. I almost punched him in the face as well.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Damn,looks like we have Jihad up in here between 2 members lolClick here to enlarge