• BMW E82 135i with upgraded N54 twin turbos versus an ESS VT2-625 DCT M3 from a roll

      Another great M3 versus 335i battle which is an ever so popular topic on the Bimmerboost forums. What we have here is a 135i with RB upgraded twin belonging to Burger Motorsports which has BMS JB4 tuning. The M3 is an E92 with a DCT (dual clutch transmission) and the S65 V8 is supercharged with an ESS-VT2 625 kit. The 335 likely has somewhere in the mid 500's to the wheels and the M3 is likely somewhere in the same boat.


      The 135i of course has meth and race gas. The VT2-625 setup is likely somewhere in the same area power wise but is heavier. It is hard to know exactly what pulley or fuel the M3 is running.

      Oddly, this RB stock housing turbo upgrade does much better against a supercharged DCT M3 than the Vishnu single turbo upgrade 335i posted a couple days earlier did. How does one explain that? Either the Vishnu single turbo is not as strong as portrayed (quite likely as customers are not replicating Vishnu's own hand picked results and figures) or the other M3 in the video is stronger than this one.

      For the M3 to pull it looks like it needs a custom race gas tune and another psi of boost. Regardless, great race, enjoy.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: RB Turbo 135 Vs ESS 625 DCT M3 started by LostMarine View original post
      Comments 39 Comments
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        $#@! yea ! Nice run Terry.... Looks like the m got a nice start ehhh jump too Click here to enlarge
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        The M3 owners probably got a heart attack when this happened. Do we know how much power the M3 was making on that run? Was he having any issues? Kinda hard to believe a car that has better gearing and supposedly more power gets beaten by a RB 135i.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        That was a fun race. Weight plays a role. I'm at 3450# w/ driver and 500whp. Longboarder is probably closer to 3750# and 570whp. And he had his windows open. We'll get to rematch next time around. Although I might have a few more HP. Click here to enlarge
      1. Ammonia's Avatar
        Ammonia -
        Damn, nice roll! Grats Terry
      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        Great kill Terry. Rep for you sir.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Very impressed with that run... The top end charge is very impressive. Great rides for both guys
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?
        lol....hahahahaha
      1. RnmEvo9's Avatar
        RnmEvo9 -
        Rb turbos ftw! Although that supercharged m3 isn't too shabby either, thanks for sharing.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        @LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        A boosted M3 will only trap 130+ in negative DA. That a great run terry what a beast of a car.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        @LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
        uhh.. i think @Chuckd is getting vtt stage 2's, very close, a tad smaller than RBs, but should be close. other than that, i think all the close people got rid of their stuff

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        What idiot said DCT is worth 10mph in the 1/4 when supercharged?
        lol.. there was like 3-4 of them, dont think they post here anymore Click here to enlarge you remember,, it was when AKH trapped 126 and M33 trapped 125, they said it was because m33 was 6mt he trapped so low, and akh was dct he trapped so high.. and then all the graphs and calculations..
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        LostMarine , do we have any rb turbo FBO meth 135s around here?.....i dont think ive seen one yet....would be nice to see them run the few 650 kits we have out here
        @Ghost135 has an RB Turbo 135 with Meth, that also runs on E85 also AND he lives in North NJ (ESS M3 country with ACM) Click here to enlarge Maybe we can organize him to run somebody with a 625 or 650??
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        @Ghost135 has an RB Turbo 135 with Meth, that also runs on E85 also AND he lives in North NJ (ESS M3 country with ACM) Click here to enlarge Maybe we can organize him to run somebody with a 625 or 650??
        sounds good....maybe after may6th so my V can stretch its legs a bit Click here to enlarge
      1. piele_bps's Avatar
        piele_bps -
        M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        sounds good....maybe after may6th so my V can stretch its legs a bit Click here to enlarge
        Why bother? We're gonna need to bolt 2 N54's together to even keep in the V in sight's distance
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Why bother? We're gonna need to bolt 2 N54's together to even keep in the V in sight's distance
        I wont go WOT Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by piele_bps Click here to enlarge
        M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
        yes, it robs about 80hp, or 8 mph.. the same difference in HP these cars have..Click here to enlarge
      1. Blitz535i's Avatar
        Blitz535i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        And he had his windows open
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by piele_bps Click here to enlarge
        M3 has window down and that is not good at high speed.
        Don't understand this when going for top speed here. Drag increases exponentially with the windows down as speeds increase. Perhaps M3 driver underestimated the "little" 135i and didn't feel the need to roll up the windows...
      1. Torgus's Avatar
        Torgus -
        It is more fun with the windows down fwiw...