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    • HPF Stage 3 turbo E46 M3 versus a Weistec Stage 3 supercharged C63 AMG

      Even those these upgrades are "Stage 3" from their respective companies readers need to understand all stages are not created equal. The E46 M3 with the HPF Stage 3 upgrade received a built motor and a larger turbo making for a very significant power upgrade capable of 788 horsepower at the rear wheels. The Weistec Stage 3 supercharger upgrade for the C63 AMG M156 V8 on the other hand still uses the stock internals.


      It's definitely no slouch as with the 3.0 liter blower at 11 psi on 91 octane pump gas the Weistec Stage III setup is capable of 630 wheel horsepower, impressive. The HPF Stage 3 on 91 octane puts down 642 rear wheel horsepower. So, on 91 pump this would be a pretty interesting race.

      The E46 M3 is not on pump though (meth is used but whether it is meth and pump or meth and race gas is unknown) and with its weight advantage it shows. Impressive pull against a stout car. Thank you to BenzBoost member @bilal for the video.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: HPF Stage 3 turbo E46 M3 versus a Weistec Stage 3 supercharged C63 AMG started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 23 Comments
      1. Legionofboom's Avatar
        Legionofboom -
        Only Men put their names in the illegal street race video "title" Click here to enlarge

        Awesome race, fast cars!
      1. Sloppy's Avatar
        Sloppy -
        did the guy blow something up... looks like the M3 had some white smoke in the cabin at the end there... ?
      1. Black Sheep's Avatar
        Black Sheep -
        The driver was prob smoking while doing work
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Owner posted this video on e46fanatics...wouldn't comment when I asked about the smoke and took the video down and deleted posts after that. Looks like Pump/Meth...my guess is he broke something and doesn't want to talk about it.
      1. Legionofboom's Avatar
        Legionofboom -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin Click here to enlarge
        Owner posted this video on e46fanatics...wouldn't comment when I asked about the smoke and took the video down and deleted posts after that. Looks like Pump/Meth...my guess is he broke something and doesn't want to talk about it.
        Or maybe he just realized his first name was in the title and thought better of it..

        How do you guys come to these conclusions?
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
        Or maybe he just realized his first name was in the title and thought better of it..

        How do you guys come to these conclusions?
        #1 Video is still on and has been for weeks...#2 Because I have an HPF car therefore why would I want one to have problems...#3 Because you can clearly see a $#@!tonne of smoke pouring into the car...mostly #3 comes to that conclusion but I guess if you can't use your eyes...
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        It could've just been a rad hose or expansion tank...but owner clearly had a more serious issue and didn't want to have drama over it or bring negative attention to HPF...sucks because the owner won't share the issue with the crowd but w/e.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin Click here to enlarge
        It could've just been a rad hose or expansion tank...but owner clearly had a more serious issue and didn't want to have drama over it or bring negative attention to HPF...sucks because the owner won't share the issue with the crowd but w/e.
        Speculation as to what it could be?
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Looks like coolant...that's all the speculation I got. I know the expansion tanks on these cars like to rip apart at the seam after 60-100k usually. I've never had it happen but I replaced mine preventatively.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin Click here to enlarge
        Looks like coolant...that's all the speculation I got. I know the expansion tanks on these cars like to rip apart at the seam after 60-100k usually. I've never had it happen but I replaced mine preventatively.
        If that's it I don't see the big deal in saying so.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        If that's it I don't see the big deal in saying so.
        Some people are weird...this was in the middle east so mabe he doesn't like to talk about little problems...may seem big to him...or maybe something bigger that was requested he remove to avoid drama...we don't know.
      1. bilal's Avatar
        bilal -
        pump and meth was used during that race trust me guys both cars are equal in performance ....the owner of the hpf is a good friend of mine very decent person he loves comparing cars no ego involved win or loose .....about the smoke a cylinder was poped in the hpf and im very sorry for that
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bilal Click here to enlarge
        pump and meth was used during that race trust me guys both cars are equal in performance ....the owner of the hpf is a good friend of mine very decent person he loves comparing cars no ego involved win or loose .....about the smoke a cylinder was poped in the hpf and im very sorry for that
        Pump and meth but it looked quite a bit faster. Regardless, sorry to hear about the motor.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        $#@!ty...nobody likes to hear that Click here to enlarge
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bilal Click here to enlarge
        pump and meth was used during that race trust me guys both cars are equal in performance ....the owner of the hpf is a good friend of mine very decent person he loves comparing cars no ego involved win or loose .....about the smoke a cylinder was poped in the hpf and im very sorry for that
        I knew it was with the motor. You can clearly hear a thump and see smoke right after. I heard it as I saw the smoke from the rear.
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        Thats oil smoke...has a bluish haze to it.
      1. bilal's Avatar
        bilal -
        sticky imo the hpf was behind the c 63 and went wot at the time they were neck and neck u could hear the 63 goes wot so I think that was an advantage for the hpf ... I posted a couple of more races through a facebook link in the other thread im not sure if u have seen them
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bilal Click here to enlarge
        sticky imo the hpf was behind the c 63 and went wot at the time they were neck and neck u could hear the 63 goes wot so I think that was an advantage for the hpf ... I posted a couple of more races through a facebook link in the other thread im not sure if u have seen them
        It's a big wheel hp and weight difference regardless. Nobody expects stock internals to keep up with a built motor turbo, it's fine.
      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        Sucks for that motor Click here to enlarge anyone know what caused the failure?
      1. 7to3_enthusiast's Avatar
        7to3_enthusiast -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
        Sucks for that motor Click here to enlarge anyone know what caused the failure?
        +1