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      So yes the BMW i8 hybrid sports car is still coming and scheduled to be in showrooms by 2014. The final production ready car should be revealed toward the end of this year. For now, BMW is still testing and was doing some winter testing when EVO got a chance to take a spin in the car. The three-cylinder motor is still getting tuning but output is still expected to be in the 223 horsepower range for the 1.5 liter turbo motor and 354 when combined with the 131 horsepower electric motor.


      This is definitely much less than some of the 400 horse rumors but maybe BMW will bump it up. It is interesting to see how the all wheel drive system works during the winter testing and how effective it is. Also how quickly one can switch it up to front wheel drive with just a button press. One can also go from hybrid to electric only at the press of a button.

      The video is well worth watching but it would be nice for this car to have a little more power and offer something more sports than a 1.5 liter three-cylinder motor. Hopefully we see variants.


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      1. Legionofboom's Avatar
        Legionofboom -
        I feel that the electrical car's are not/is not what enthusiest cars are.
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
        I feel that the electrical car's are not/is not what enthusiest cars are.
        +1

        Its kind of two birds with one stone though for BMW. High-efficiency to add to their range of cars,and high profit off of flashy cars for people who dont actually care about 'performance' but want looks. And in my opinion, its pretty good looking.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
        I feel that the electrical car's are not/is not what enthusiest cars are.
        Well they can be. Look at the 918 spyder.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
        +1

        Its kind of two birds with one stone though for BMW. High-efficiency to add to their range of cars,and high profit off of flashy cars for people who dont actually care about 'performance' but want looks. And in my opinion, its pretty good looking.
        It's a good looking car. It packs in technology. It is finally something high-end.

        But seriously, seriously. All this time, money, and development and no real enthusiast version? At the very least an N20?
      1. Karura's Avatar
        Karura -
        Although it is debatable whether or not this is a true enthusiast's car, I feel that this car will pioneer the future in eco-friendliness, performance, and functionality. I am all for innovation, and this will make a great DD, perfect for someone who just wants a "nice" and stylish car without having to worry about harming the environment while saving on gas. That being said, I'm sure with new tech like this, it will not be cheap to maintain, but that is a whole different topic.
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's a good looking car. It packs in technology. It is finally something high-end.

        But seriously, seriously. All this time, money, and development and no real enthusiast version? At the very least an N20?
        I agree. Even that silly ole N54 would be better...
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Karura Click here to enlarge
        Although it is debatable whether or not this is a true enthusiast's car, I feel that this car will pioneer the future in eco-friendliness, performance, and functionality. I am all for innovation, and this will make a great DD, perfect for someone who just wants a "nice" and stylish car without having to worry about harming the environment while saving on gas. That being said, I'm sure with new tech like this, it will not be cheap to maintain, but that is a whole different topic.
        I love low-slung, gull-wing cars for DDs Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Karura Click here to enlarge
        Although it is debatable whether or not this is a true enthusiast's car, I feel that this car will pioneer the future in eco-friendliness, performance, and functionality. I am all for innovation, and this will make a great DD, perfect for someone who just wants a "nice" and stylish car without having to worry about harming the environment while saving on gas. That being said, I'm sure with new tech like this, it will not be cheap to maintain, but that is a whole different topic.
        Agreed at least BMW is doing something. And this will be a hot a seller and their halo car so to speak.

        It's just a shame they can't back the looks and technology up with performance on par with that price segment.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
        I agree. Even that silly ole N54 would be better...
        Anything. I've never heard anyone go, "Oh yeah! 1.5 liter three cylinder under the hood. That's hot!"
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Anything. I've never heard anyone go, "Oh yeah! 1.5 liter three cylinder under the hood. That's hot!"
        Click here to enlarge
      1. Karura's Avatar
        Karura -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Agreed at least BMW is doing something. And this will be a hot a seller and their halo car so to speak.

        It's just a shame they can't back the looks and technology up with performance on par with that price segment.
        All in good time, you never know!

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
        I love low-slung, gull-wing cars for DDs Click here to enlarge
        Haha, it will make a sick DD! Click here to enlarge I was thinking more about its fuel efficiency for daily commutes, and the option of 400+hp (more than enough for most people) sports-mode when you want it.
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Karura Click here to enlarge
        All in good time, you never know!



        Haha, it will make a sick DD! Click here to enlarge I was thinking more about its fuel efficiency for daily commutes, and the option of 400+hp (more than enough for most people) sports-mode when you want it.
        I agree, i was just jerkin ya Click here to enlarge
      1. StinkyM's Avatar
        StinkyM -
        I like it. I love the sound of the engine. Very skeptical about sales though. I doubt it will do well in its segment. As a 60-80k car it would do a lot better and be more likely to sell. Otherwise, I see a sales slump worse than the Z4. Not many people who purchase in this segment are purchasing hybrid variants. For instance Fisker or Tesla. Both beautiful cars, geared towards performance, but the sales are very slow. A 2 seater, 1.5 liter, BMW might turn heads, but I doubt it would make people stretch their pockets.
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        The initial specs on this thing say it will be 1480kg, about 3260lbs. All those composite materials and that's as light as they can get it? This also raises the question: how light are they truly going to be able to get the F8x M3? Having a 3cyl motor must help offset the weight of the electric motor and batteries... Why is this so heavy?
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
        The initial specs on this thing say it will be 1480kg, about 3260lbs. All those composite materials and that's as light as they can get it? This also raises the question: how light are they truly going to be able to get the F8x M3? Having a 3cyl motor must help offset the weight of the electric motor and batteries... Why is this so heavy?
        The batteries probably weigh ALOT. A Tesla model S weighs around 2100kg, that's over 4600 lbs.

        So 1480kg is really not bad. But I agree, it doesn't sound groundbreaking.

        I wouldn't speculate on M3/M4 weight based on this car. They're not comparable at all.
      1. whoosh's Avatar
        whoosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
        The batteries probably weigh ALOT. A Tesla model S weighs around 2100kg, that's over 4600 lbs.

        So 1480kg is really not bad. But I agree, it doesn't sound groundbreaking.

        I wouldn't speculate on M3/M4 weight based on this car. They're not comparable at all.
        the Tesla roadster was about 2700lbs, which was very close to the curb weight of the Lotus Elise on which it was based. So if Tesla was able to equal the weight between gas and electric cars, it seems BMWs 3260lbs isn't out of line as I had first suggested. Lighter would be better, obviously.

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      1. xbox_fan's Avatar
        xbox_fan -
        Well I dont know the data for the US but in Sweden private cars is only responsible for some 3-5% of CO2 emissions, even if all suedes got i8's the improvement would be negletable.

        If one wants to save us from CO2 you need to look at meat production and heavy transports, get rid of coal plants etc and go nuclear. Cars are not the problem and cant be the future solution...
      1. Torgus's Avatar
        Torgus -
        what a wimpy motor. there are plenty of high output 2l engines they could use.
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by xbox_fan Click here to enlarge
        Well I dont know the data for the US but in Sweden private cars is only responsible for some 3-5% of CO2 emissions, even if all suedes got i8's the improvement would be negletable.

        If one wants to save us from CO2 you need to look at meat production and heavy transports, get rid of coal plants etc and go nuclear. Cars are not the problem and cant be the future solution...
        It's the same situation over here and in most developed countries.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by StinkyM Click here to enlarge
        I like it. I love the sound of the engine. Very skeptical about sales though. I doubt it will do well in its segment. As a 60-80k car it would do a lot better and be more likely to sell. Otherwise, I see a sales slump worse than the Z4. Not many people who purchase in this segment are purchasing hybrid variants. For instance Fisker or Tesla. Both beautiful cars, geared towards performance, but the sales are very slow. A 2 seater, 1.5 liter, BMW might turn heads, but I doubt it would make people stretch their pockets.
        I think this is fine at the $150k price point.