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    • Bolt on E60 M5 with tune versus bolt on DCT E92 M3 from 50 mph and 70 mph roll

      Nice comparison here showing the difference in the top end strength between the S85 V10 in the E60 M5 and the S65 V8 in the E92 M3. Both motors are basically the same thing but the two extra cylinder and extra liter of displacement in the S85 shows quite well in how the M3 is pulled easily from the 50 and 70 mile per hour rolls. Also, the E60 M5 S85 V10 having an Evolve tune while the M3 does not have a tune makes a huge difference.


      Mods for the E60 M5 are Evolve-R tune, RPI scoops, muffler delete, and secondary cat delete. The DCT E92 M3 has RPI scoops and a full Active Autowerke exhaust but no tune. Enjoy the runs below.

      Thank you to @TZ04XJR for the video.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: e60 M5 vs e92 M3 DCT started by TZ04XJR View original post
      Comments 39 Comments
      1. RnmEvo9's Avatar
        RnmEvo9 -
        Trapping over 120mph is definitely moving. Love the sound of the S85! Click here to enlarge
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Wait thats my friends car. He has an active tune on it as well. V10>V8

        Not sure if he had the tune in these video

      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        on the M3 or M5? I vaguely recall asking and being told the M3 was tuned after the videos.. would be good time for a rematch if so
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Wait thats my friends car. He has an active tune on it as well. V10>V8

        Not sure if he had the tune in these video
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyvuikCBNa8
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQFXWwZTeYI

        He was off the tune during our last runs.. He has to take it to the dealer for some service work and is on the stock file.. I just talked to him a bit ago, he said you text him lol Click here to enlarge




        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        on the M3 or M5? I vaguely recall asking and being told the M3 was tuned after the videos.. would be good time for a rematch if so
        Our rematch was the vid I uploaded in this thread.. I wish he were on his tune for a better comparison Click here to enlarge

        I don't know that I'll run him again in my M. I'm down again with electrical issues.. Hopefully I'll get it resolved this week. When it's healthy again I'm trading it in. $40k in repairs and counting.. Click here to enlarge I love the thing but its time for a new car...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Wait thats my friends car. He has an active tune on it as well. V10>V8
        So he does have a tune and got beat like that? Damn.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        He was off the tune during our last runs..
        Makes sense, thanks.
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Yeah I texted him to get a supercharger that way he can win some races :p He also said you got a new engine since the last videos? I know the smg pumps go but I have yet to see an engine in stock form need to be replaced.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Yeah I texted him to get a supercharger that way he can win some races :p He also said you got a new engine since the last videos? I know the smg pumps go but I have yet to see an engine in stock form need to be replaced.
        That's funny.. He's always talked about grabbing the S/C from you. I'm sure It'll happen soon enough considering the way he is with his cars.

        Yea new motor but its a used low mileage unit from a salvage yard. It was a spun rod bearing. I have a friend that went through the same thing. I know of several others as well.. Sh*t sucks..

        I've had my SMG pump replaced too..
      1. GetSomeE92's Avatar
        GetSomeE92 -
        Man, the M5 is an awesome car, when running right. Too bad it seems to give you a lot of (expensive) trouble. $40k in repairs is insane.
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        That's funny.. He's always talked about grabbing the S/C from you. I'm sure It'll happen soon enough considering the way he is with his cars.

        Yea new motor but its a used low mileage unit from a salvage yard. It was a spun rod bearing. I have a friend that went through the same thing. I know of several others as well.. Sh*t sucks..

        I've had my SMG pump replaced too..
        Ouch! I was hoping to get one one day 6mt of course but now idk...
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        Ouch! I was hoping to get one one day 6mt of course but now idk...
        Mine is a VERY late build 2006. Built 1 week before they started 07's and 6 months before 08's. I would get a 2008+ if I were you. 6 speed is a safer bet but I really enjoy the SMG.

        My problems were..

        SMG Pump
        CCC (iDrive computer)
        Alternator
        2 Idle Actuators
        1 Throttle Actuator
        Steering Angle Sensor
        Passenger Seat Mat Sensor
        Vanos Pump
        2 Vanos Solenoids
        Spun Rod Bearing

        An amazing and fun car when it's not running up $1,000+ repair bills.. It's really a roll of the dice if you get one. I have friends that have $30k+ in repairs like myself and I know others that have little to no issues in 70k miles.. Click here to enlarge
      1. 5soko's Avatar
        5soko -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        Mine is a VERY late build 2006. Built 1 week before they started 07's and 6 months before 08's. I would get a 2008+ if I were you. 6 speed is a safer bet but I really enjoy the SMG.

        My problems were..

        SMG Pump
        CCC (iDrive computer)
        Alternator
        2 Idle Actuators
        1 Throttle Actuator
        Steering Angle Sensor
        Passenger Seat Mat Sensor
        Vanos Pump
        2 Vanos Solenoids
        Spun Rod Bearing

        An amazing and fun car when it's not running up $1,000+ repair bills.. It's really a roll of the dice if you get one. I have friends that have $30k+ in repairs like myself and I know others that have little to no issues in 70k miles.. Click here to enlarge
        Sorry to hear man! Def a lot of work on that car! Hope it all works out for you. From all my research prior to jumping into the M5, which im soooo happy I have done, over a C63 and my fully modded 335i, 2006 are the worst year for the M5. 2009 and 2010 are the best. I got a last month 2009.5 build and the car runs perfect to the T. Hope it stays like this.
      1. nafoo's Avatar
        nafoo -
        Nice runs. Cake walk!
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 5soko Click here to enlarge
        Sorry to hear man! Def a lot of work on that car! Hope it all works out for you. From all my research prior to jumping into the M5, which im soooo happy I have done, over a C63 and my fully modded 335i, 2006 are the worst year for the M5. 2009 and 2010 are the best. I got a last month 2009.5 build and the car runs perfect to the T. Hope it stays like this.
        I appreciate the positive response brother! I have no regrets buying mine even with all the issues. But I would love a 2010 with the new iDrive and full factory warranty Click here to enlarge

        I wish you many healthy miles in yours.

        -TZ

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nafoo Click here to enlarge
        Nice runs. Cake walk!
        Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the vid
      1. disruptv's Avatar
        disruptv -
        Tzo4xjr, why dont you trade in yours for a 2010? If u factor in the cost of an extended warranty 4 these cars and spend that money and hopefully a little more along with trading in your car and hopefully end up in a newer car
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by disruptv Click here to enlarge
        Tzo4xjr, why dont you trade in yours for a 2010? If u factor in the cost of an extended warranty 4 these cars and spend that money and hopefully a little more along with trading in your car and hopefully end up in a newer car
        I've considered it.. I've also considered a 2010 M6 SMG too.. I'm just ready to move on from the S85. I've had mine for 2 years and have enjoyed the hell out of it. Check out my youtube if you haven't already, I've uploaded 140+ race videos of my M5 Click here to enlarge I'm going to make a move in the next couple months or even sooner. Just need to work out whatever issue has my car stalling at idle and she's GONE. I'm not going to say what I'm getting, as I'm the type of guy that just does it rather than talk about it. I'll continue to post over here though with whatever I get.

        @Sticky what's the status with americanboost or domesticboost?? Click here to enlarge

        -TZ
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        @Sticky what's the status with americanboost or domesticboost??
        I just need to load up on coffee and get a triple monitor setup and then I can do it. Also need to handcuff myself to my PC. So, it's coming.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I just need to load up on coffee and get a triple monitor setup and then I can do it. Also need to handcuff myself to my PC. So, it's coming.
        I hear ya. Good to know It's in the works though Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        I hear ya. Good to know It's in the works though Click here to enlarge
        DomesticBoost.com, ImportBoost.com, EuropeanBoost.com, 60-130.com, dynonumbers.com, and dragtimeslips.com all coming soon... who needs sleep?