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    • ESS-Tuning accuses Evolve of using ESS Tunes, potentially dangerous tuning, and BimmerBoost of generating propaganda for Evolve

      The e-mails below come to us from a user who switched from ESS to Evolve tuning. This is not uncommon, a lot of people have been making this switch lately and it seems to be making ESS uncomfortable. They have not made many of these claims publicly but you can see how they operate behind the scenes with it essentially boiling down to implying Evolve is not capable of doing their own tuning, their tuning could be dangerous, and that Evolve has to resort to modifying the ESS software.


      These accusations as you can see in the forwarded e-mails come from Asbjorn at ESS. Now, Evolve has really been taking over especially in the S85 V10 tuning scene. This seems to have greatly threatened ESS-Tuning. Additionally, ESS goes to length of saying BimmerBoost generates propaganda for Evolve as if BimmerBoost can be held responsible for ESS customer service or individuals choosing to change their tunes. It was not BimmerBoost that forced the user @MisterEm to switch companies and provide his review of the customer service difference between the two and it is not as if he has only discussed his experience here as if held hostage at gunpoint.

      It's a bit of shame to see this behavior behind the scenes. It is also a shame ESS seems to be blaming others for their customer service pushing users to other companies. That is not something in BimmerBoost's control.

      Regardless, Evolve is making tremendous headway in tuning. The user who switched here seems to be happier with his Evolve tune and was upset with the behavior displayed by Asbjorn at ESS giving the go ahead to post these e-mails. Whether he wants to chime in or not is his business, BimmerBoost will not violate his confidence. What BimmerBoost will do however is expose ridiculous accusations especially when someone is simply happy with their tuning experience using a company other than ESS-Tuning. Perhaps Asbjorn at ESS should focus more on quality customer service and tuning rather than writing nasty, untrue, and accusatory e-mails?

      Here is the first e-mail saying Evolve is just using ESS software for supercharged tuning and not their own:


      Those who have been following supercharger development have seen Evolve use and develop their own software. Additionally, those that have seen reviews of Evolve software have seen the impressions regarding the quality of the tuning. Accusing Evolve of just using ESS software and essentially not being capable of doing their own software development and having to modify ESS tunes without even seeing the work done is a bit low. For the record, there will be some basic similarities in practically every S54 forced induction setup on the stock DME.

      Second e-mail:


      Asbjorn accuses BimmerBoost of stating ESS could not get the user in question's car running right. BimmerBoost can not find any article published where it has done what ESS accuses BimmerBoost of doing. The only article published regarding ESS and Evolve was a user's own words, not those of BimmerBoost, of his experience switching from ESS to Evolve for his tuning. This is quite simply a blatant lie that clearly Asbjorn felt comfortable saying in private but not in public. His mistake to choose to lie and disparage regardless.

      Here are the issues this particular customer experienced prompting him to explore other tuning options. Not much different from others who have also experienced similar issues and who have decided to make the switch to Evolve to resolve them:




      Here is an e-mail from Asbjorn at ESS to said customer once he got wind of the customer trying other tuning options. The e-mail just directly states that Evolve is tuning using ESS software and not their own and implies Evolve's tune will be dangerous. Asbjorn states that if the timing is changed it "could be fatal' implying that Evolve is not competent in knowing how to adjust the timing on the fuel quality used in the application and also that their tune can cause engine failure over time as if getting a custom Evolve tune is worse than a canned tune:


      This is all pretty ridiculous, childish, and petty. People will switch tunes. There is not only one tuner capable of tuning a BMW forced induction setup. Evolve has plenty of cars running well. It is their own quality customer service, tuning, and results that is causing such a changover in various markets most visible in the S85 scene currently. People are happy with Evolve tunes. It's ok to have competition. BimmerBoost will not generate propaganda for anyone and knows Evolve can stand on their own merit which is why they are welcome to engage the userbase here. What BimmerBoost will do however is expose this type of shady behavior behind the scenes. The words you see in the ESS e-mails are Asbjorn's own. Come to your own conclusion.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: ESS-Tuning accuses Evolve of using ESS Tunes, potentially dangerous tuning, and BimmerBoost of generating propaganda for Evolve started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        That ESS company is a $#@!ing joke. Hard to comprehend their irrational mentallity. Just wow! Is that absjorn guy the owner? If he is, then I'm speechless.
        You never saw what he wrote to me? http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...the-SC-stroker
      1. evolve's Avatar
        evolve -
        You will see a different power curve to what you may think. I am confident in saying we are very good at maximising the efficiency of the setup especially at the higher rpm's Click here to enlarge
        We will probably go to around 8-10 PSi. Not out to brake any records but we might just produce something with excellent low-midrange topped off with a very steep looking top end! We already know how it performs... let's just say that we got that into the development stage.
        That's another story for another thread later this year!
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Right!! I remember now. Thanks for the refresh. It's been sometime so I forgot. Disgusting and pathetic is all I can say. Why would anyone wanna conduct business with such people is beyond me. This ESS establishment is digging its grave with such unethical behavior. It's almost comical how these guys believe they should be the only ones in the M3 world.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        Right!! I remember now. Thanks for the refresh. It's been sometime so I forgot. Disgusting and pathetic is all I can say. Why would anyone wanna conduct business with such people is beyond me. This ESS establishment is digging its grave with such unethical behavior. It's almost comical how these guys believe they should be the only ones in the M3 world.
        I just hate the wanting to hurt people and their families part... wtf?
      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yes, I would like to thank him as well for standing up. Wish more people would.
        Many people have, only to find their posts deleted and accounts banned. Myself included.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
        Many people have, only to find their posts deleted and accounts banned. Myself included.
        That's why we're here.
      1. JohnBlaze's Avatar
        JohnBlaze -
        Evolve, I vote you keep the logo on your kits intake manifold to a minimum or do something creative so it's not easily seen. Less is more IMO
      1. normcaldwell's Avatar
        normcaldwell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        So now... we make a supercharger kit based on a Rotrex C38-91. Why? Well... just because we feel the sudden urge to do so :-)
        Looks like Rotrex has a C38-92 model out now.
        I wonder what the difference is between the 91 vs 92.


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
        Many people have, only to find their posts deleted and accounts banned. Myself included.
        Good point. I can see your post in BimmerBoost, but no longer in M3F.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by normcaldwell Click here to enlarge
        Looks like Rotrex has a C38-92 model out now.
        I wonder what the difference is between the 91 vs 92.
        http://www.germanboost.com/showthrea...ompressor-maps
      1. normcaldwell's Avatar
        normcaldwell -
        Thanks Sticky!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by normcaldwell Click here to enlarge
        Thanks Sticky!
        My pleasure.
      1. evolve's Avatar
        evolve -
        92 only difference is the larger intake but this has no effect at all and was only done where larger intake sizes were being used.

        Tried using that already, did nothing.
      1. Mkpoto's Avatar
        Mkpoto -
        pretty funny this whole situation, and I give Evolve props for not coming out and bashing ESS for what they did. It shows us how they are as a company and that little things like that don't bother them and they still come out with sick products. Such as the Evolve E-Tronic Exhaust and the Supercharger! Great to see cause I am sick of bashing and such that goes on a M3p.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
        Great to see cause I am sick of bashing and such that goes on a M3p.
        It's so lame. Goes on at M5board too.
      1. Mkpoto's Avatar
        Mkpoto -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's so lame. Goes on at M5board too.
        yeah pretty nasty stuff, i just went on m3p and all i see is who is the best turner bs.. I even got bashed for my review of the Evolve tune
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
        yeah pretty nasty stuff, i just went on m3p and all i see is who is the best turner bs.. I even got bashed for my review of the Evolve tune
        Bashed why? I don't get it.
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        You will see a different power curve to what you may think. I am confident in saying we are very good at maximising the efficiency of the setup especially at the higher rpm's Click here to enlarge
        We will probably go to around 8-10 PSi. Not out to brake any records but we might just produce something with excellent low-midrange topped off with a very steep looking top end! We already know how it performs... let's just say that we got that into the development stage.
        That's another story for another thread later this year!
        If you buy me another E46 M3, I will definitely buy your E46 M3 Supercharger Kit! Click here to enlarge

        Although, it would be interesting to see how a potential supercharger kit and your tuning would be when paired with Schrick 288/280 cams Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JohnBlaze Click here to enlarge
        Evolve, I vote you keep the logo on your kits intake manifold to a minimum or do something creative so it's not easily seen. Less is more IMO
        What I love about Evolve's products is that they all have a very minimalist approach. Their CF Airbox has a small tiny plaque that is tastefully designed and located. Their E92 Intake Manifold for their kit is very aggressive looking, yet tasteful without any gaudy logos.

        Good stuff to say the least. Curious if it would coincidentally fit a ZHP that happened to have a S54... Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by normcaldwell Click here to enlarge
        Looks like Rotrex has a C38-92 model out now.
        I wonder what the difference is between the 91 vs 92.

        Good point. I can see your post in BimmerBoost, but no longer in M3F.
        What would be interesting if someone developed a Rotrex C38-91/92 Retrofit Kit to be installed with other currently offered E46 M3 Supercharger Kits. I imagine a different bracket, some hoses here and there, and boom...simple conversion. I know a guy who has a perfect setup to test this on...happens to have great taste in wheels too. Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
        pretty funny this whole situation, and I give Evolve props for not coming out and bashing ESS for what they did. It shows us how they are as a company and that little things like that don't bother them and they still come out with sick products. Such as the Evolve E-Tronic Exhaust and the Supercharger! Great to see cause I am sick of bashing and such that goes on a M3p.
        Click here to enlarge
      1. Mkpoto's Avatar
        Mkpoto -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        If you buy me another E46 M3, I will definitely buy your E46 M3 Supercharger Kit! Click here to enlarge

        Although, it would be interesting to see how a potential supercharger kit and your tuning would be when paired with Schrick 288/280 cams Click here to enlarge


        What I love about Evolve's products is that they all have a very minimalist approach. Their CF Airbox has a small tiny plaque that is tastefully designed and located. Their E92 Intake Manifold for their kit is very aggressive looking, yet tasteful without any gaudy logos.

        Good stuff to say the least. Curious if it would coincidentally fit a ZHP that happened to have a S54... Click here to enlarge


        What would be interesting if someone developed a Rotrex C38-91/92 Retrofit Kit to be installed with other currently offered E46 M3 Supercharger Kits. I imagine a different bracket, some hoses here and there, and boom...simple conversion. I know a guy who has a perfect setup to test this on...happens to have great taste in wheels too. Click here to enlarge


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        cams, supercharger with carbon air box duh
      1. normcaldwell's Avatar
        normcaldwell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
        92 only difference is the larger intake but this has no effect at all and was only done where larger intake sizes were being used.

        Tried using that already, did nothing.
        Thanks Sal!


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        What would be interesting if someone developed a Rotrex C38-91/92 Retrofit Kit to be installed with other currently offered E46 M3 Supercharger Kits. I imagine a different bracket, some hoses here and there, and boom...simple conversion. I know a guy who has a perfect setup to test this on...happens to have great taste in wheels too. Click here to enlarge
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        Domestic U.S. based Beta tester; reporting for duty!Click here to enlarge
        Love those TE37's Alex. Where'd you get 'em?
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
        cams, supercharger with carbon air box duh
        Haha...if only there was a way for @evolve to make an adapter for the CF airbox and contain all the pressurized air...man, I would be in trouble.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by normcaldwell Click here to enlarge
        Domestic U.S. based Beta tester; reporting for duty!Click here to enlarge
        Love those TE37's Alex. Where'd you get 'em?
        Haha...from some cool guy who loves a mile above sea level...