• APR Stage IV GTI with GT28 turbocharger versus GT35r upgrade Misubishi Evo 8 roll races

    This is an interesting matchup between two cars with similar sized and turbocharged four cylinder motors. The main difference here being that the GTI has front wheel drive and the Evo 8 is an all wheel drive vehicle. The front wheel drive layout of the GTI actually helps it in this race despite its smaller turbo due to lower drivetrain losses as it is able to pull the Mitsubishi Evo in a couple of the videos although it is very close between the two.


    The GTI is an APR shop car said to be Stage 4 which likely includes built motor and heads. The Evo 8 has a GT35r turbo at 21 psi. Both cars are on pump gas. The Evo is said to have 427 horsepower and the GTI is around 385 horsepower. Videos are below.







    This article was originally published in forum thread: GT35r evo 8 vs GT28 GTI started by bigdnno98 View original post
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    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Being on the losing end of a front pager kind of sucks lol
    1. Sticky's Avatar
      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      Being on the losing end of a front pager kind of sucks lol
      Eh not really, the runs are pretty close.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      We're having a rematch Friday. This time ill be on the correct boost setting lol
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      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      We're having a rematch Friday. This time ill be on the correct boost setting lol
      Create a new thread for it, put all runs in 1 vid.
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      bigdnno98 -
      Ok. I can do that
    1. ChuckD05's Avatar
      ChuckD05 -
      Crazy how fast you're moving lol.

      Good luck with the build!! You gotta go sc m3 hunting soon. 600 whp with that rear should be enough to run with any blown m3s id imagine. And slaughter in 1/4 et wise.
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      bigdnno98 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
      Crazy how fast you're moving lol.

      Good luck with the build!! You gotta go sc m3 hunting soon. 600 whp with that rear should be enough to run with any blown m3s id imagine. And slaughter in 1/4 et wise.
      theres a hpf stage 3 e46 here but he doesn't race it. The fastest car around is my buddy's e85 GTR but he just sold it. He'll ce back with something as fast or faster. I'm hoping high 10s on stock motor and 10flat on built motor.
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      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      theres a hpf stage 3 e46 here but he doesn't race it.
      What does he do? Stare at it?
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      bigdnno98 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
      What does he do? Stare at it?
      Actually yes. Parks it and everyone looks at it. I tried to get him to race my 335i more than once
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      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      Actually yes. Parks it and everyone looks at it. I tried to get him to race my 335i more than once
      You should slap him.
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      ChuckD05 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
      You should slap him.

      agreed ... you actually should be into the 9s on the built motor... no reason why not with the right tire all around (r888's even) and your supporting mods and turbo that you say you are going to get... even with 450ish you should be flirting with 10s with a 1.5 60ft or so
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      Eric335 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      There's so many used parts out there. You can pick up a 700hp twin scroll complete turbo kit for less than $3k. I can buy a built shortblock good to 650hp for $2300. I'd say its way cheaper lol
      Wow thats insane Click here to enlarge STI platform similar?
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      RnmEvo9 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
      Wow thats insane Click here to enlarge STI platform similar?
      Hell no lol
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      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      We're having a rematch Friday. This time ill be on the correct boost setting lol
      ugh...It may be the APR shop car but it's still an FSI running a gt28r so this is going to be hilariously brutal.. I honestly can't wait to see it.
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      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      dyno from previous owner. 24psi on pump gas.

      Attachment 22928
      Put in race an dturn it up...
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      bigdnno98 -
      I don't have a race gas tune. just the 93. I'll be getting my e85 tune next Wed along with my injectors, fuel rail, 400lph wally and FPR put in. 34psi here i come Click here to enlarge

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
      Put in race an dturn it up...
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      Sticky -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      I don't have a race gas tune. just the 93. I'll be getting my e85 tune next Wed along with my injectors, fuel rail, 400lph wally and FPR put in. 34psi here i come Click here to enlarge
      That's the spirit.
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      rt turbo -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      I don't have a race gas tune. just the 93. I'll be getting my e85 tune next Wed along with my injectors, fuel rail, 400lph wally and FPR put in. 34psi here i come Click here to enlarge
      Can the stock bottom end take 34 psi from a gt35r? Even on E85? I was thinking the recommended limit was below 550whp. 34 psi from that turbo on e85 will produce much more than that.
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      bigdnno98 -
      Yeah, we're going to limit it to around 550HP. TQ is the most important thing and there isn't a bunch of low end TQ on that turbo. too much lag LOL. I'm not sure how many PSI it'll take to get there but the 550HP mark is what we're shooting for not necessarily 34psi.

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rt turbo Click here to enlarge
      Can the stock bottom end take 34 psi from a gt35r? Even on E85? I was thinking the recommended limit was below 550whp. 34 psi from that turbo on e85 will produce much more than that.
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      rt turbo -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by [B Click here to enlarge
      bigdnno98[/B];362667]Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98Click here to enlargeThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
      dyno from previous owner. 24psi on pump gas.

      Attachment 22928
      Yeah, I made near that on 24 psi on the stock evo 8 turbo. Something is just not setup right from the previous owner, but you can certainly fix that!! Click here to enlarge

      Edit, that is on a DD dyno, so that is over 470 whp on a dyno jet. Still, 24 psi from that turbo should produce more. Evos have made 800 awhp on that turbo.