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  • APR Stage IV GTI with GT28 turbocharger versus GT35r upgrade Misubishi Evo 8 roll races

    This is an interesting matchup between two cars with similar sized and turbocharged four cylinder motors. The main difference here being that the GTI has front wheel drive and the Evo 8 is an all wheel drive vehicle. The front wheel drive layout of the GTI actually helps it in this race despite its smaller turbo due to lower drivetrain losses as it is able to pull the Mitsubishi Evo in a couple of the videos although it is very close between the two.


    The GTI is an APR shop car said to be Stage 4 which likely includes built motor and heads. The Evo 8 has a GT35r turbo at 21 psi. Both cars are on pump gas. The Evo is said to have 427 horsepower and the GTI is around 385 horsepower. Videos are below.








    This article was originally published in forum thread: GT35r evo 8 vs GT28 GTI started by bigdnno98 View original post
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    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      It has a profec B. the boost controler is mounted on the steering column though, I can switch from low to high boost whenever. Can't change ECU maps though unless I turn the car off.

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
      Which boost controller? On my Honda I wired my profec B to the horn switch so I could switch between high and low boost on the fly.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      It was a very conservative build. Conservative as far as good HP but very dependable and not gonna blow up. I'm not a conservative type guy! I'm a push the envelope type guy. Don't mod it if you can't afford to blow it up. That's why I had to get rid of the 335i. Couldn't afford a new motor if I blew it up. LOL

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
      Car already had one huge list of mods, you just added/changed them up so much already!
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      fastgti69 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      It was a very conservative build. Conservative as far as good HP but very dependable and not gonna blow up. I'm not a conservative type guy! I'm a push the envelope type guy. Don't mod it if you can't afford to blow it up. That's why I had to get rid of the 335i. Couldn't afford a new motor if I blew it up. LOL
      LOL, by all means I am in your same position. However the evo is not that cheap if blown either! Don't do too many launches, kills the tranny. If the motor is built, most I'd go on stock block is prob 5-600 whp. Amazing traction though, god am I jealous of that. I want to get an evo myself and put a GTX3582.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      There is a all original never modded blue Evo 8 in mint condition with 10k miles for sale on the Evo forum for $17k. Also a fully built 600hp shop car for sale. Click here to enlarge
    1. rt turbo's Avatar
      rt turbo -
      The Evo was my baby. I loved that car. first new I car bought myself (in college). I ordered mine 8 months before they came and had the 10th sold. I miss that car.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Had oil pan pulled yesterday. Car has stock internals. I'm trying to decide now on putting 2.3 or 2.0 long rod setup in this block or buying a built 2.4 long rod from MAP. Waiting on estimate from my local shop to build this block.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Picked up some goodies today. Bought a fully built Shep trans with taller gears and 4.11 final drive today. My transfer case core also came in today. It goes to shep tomorrow for rebuild. Finally decided to just get a set of ID2000cc injectors i really didn't want to spend that kind of money on 4 injectors but everyone says they're the best so.... My bashur racing ported intake mani came in today too. Looks like I'll be getting my 400lph wally put in with the injectors, FIC fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator and intake mani next week along with the e85 tune. Tranny and TC install will prob be the following week. Then I'm going to figure out what I'm going to do turbo wise. I'm selling the HTA 3586r, too much lag for my taste. I'm looking at making my current GT35r a DBB with billet wheels. should spool 500 RPM faster than now with same topend.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      dyno from previous owner. 24psi on pump gas.

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    1. wtfmateim65's Avatar
      wtfmateim65 -
      if you build the motor and are getting those cams you should swap springs and retainers too! I've read of a few guys w/ built block, cams springs and retainers that rev to 8500 on e85, that would be a monster.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      The car already has HKS 272 cams with supertec dual springs and titanium retainers. The head is capable of revving to 10k. The stock rods are not. Right now I rev to 8200. Once i put long rods in the car I'll be able to rev to 10K.

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wtfmateim65 Click here to enlarge
      if you build the motor and are getting those cams you should swap springs and retainers too! I've read of a few guys w/ built block, cams springs and retainers that rev to 8500 on e85, that would be a monster.
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      wtfmateim65 -
      ^Thats MONEY. Cant wait to see it all set up with some dynos/60-130/1/4mile times.Wow now I want one, miss my AWD Sti days
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      yeah i'm going to write a review soon about the switch from my 335i to the Evo. Let's just say this car is super fun to drive and there are SO many parts for it.
    1. Eric335's Avatar
      Eric335 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      yeah i'm going to write a review soon about the switch from my 335i to the Evo. Let's just say this car is super fun to drive and there are SO many parts for it.
      Im jealous! Revving to 10k RPMs is just crazy. Im in for videos/dynos
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      10k revving is still a little ways off. need to decide on 2.0, 2.3 or 2.4 and need to order pistons and rods first. for now have to settle for 8200 RPM

      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eric335 Click here to enlarge
      Im jealous! Revving to 10k RPMs is just crazy. Im in for videos/dynos
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      Eric335 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      10k revving is still a little ways off. need to decide on 2.0, 2.3 or 2.4 and need to order pistons and rods first. for now have to settle for 8200 RPM
      Ah, i see. I have a question: As far as the aftermarket goes, how much cheaper are parts for your Evo? Since its an older + more popular platform, i assume that the aftermarket parts and kits are cheaper?
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      There's so many used parts out there. You can pick up a 700hp twin scroll complete turbo kit for less than $3k. I can buy a built shortblock good to 650hp for $2300. I'd say its way cheaper lol
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Oh, that shortblock is new too for $2300
    1. Sticky's Avatar
      Sticky -
      This is an interesting matchup between two cars with similar sized and turbocharged four cylinder motors. The main difference here being that the GTI has front wheel drive and the Evo 8 is an all wheel drive vehicle. The front wheel drive layout of the GTI actually helps it in this race despite its smaller turbo due to lower drivetrain losses as it is able to pull the Mitsubishi Evo in a couple of the videos although it is very close between the two.

      Click here to enlarge

      The GTI is an APR shop car said to be Stage 4 which likely includes built motor and heads. The Evo 8 has a GT35r turbo at 21 psi. Both cars are on pump gas. The Evo is said to have 427 horsepower and the GTI is around 385 horsepower. Videos are below.







    1. fastgti69's Avatar
      fastgti69 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      There's so many used parts out there. You can pick up a 700hp twin scroll complete turbo kit for less than $3k. I can buy a built shortblock good to 650hp for $2300. I'd say its way cheaper lol
      http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant...gory_Code=VEVO
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      That is actually a turbo made to bolt right to the stock Evo exhaust mani. My next turbo will be a DBB GTX3582r but I have an RNR tubular GT35r mani already so mine will just be an .82/t3 normal Garrett turbo. It'll be a lot cheaper than that one. I'm still selling that HTA3586r. Know anyone that wants it?