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  • APR Stage IV GTI with GT28 turbocharger versus GT35r upgrade Misubishi Evo 8 roll races

    This is an interesting matchup between two cars with similar sized and turbocharged four cylinder motors. The main difference here being that the GTI has front wheel drive and the Evo 8 is an all wheel drive vehicle. The front wheel drive layout of the GTI actually helps it in this race despite its smaller turbo due to lower drivetrain losses as it is able to pull the Mitsubishi Evo in a couple of the videos although it is very close between the two.


    The GTI is an APR shop car said to be Stage 4 which likely includes built motor and heads. The Evo 8 has a GT35r turbo at 21 psi. Both cars are on pump gas. The Evo is said to have 427 horsepower and the GTI is around 385 horsepower. Videos are below.








    This article was originally published in forum thread: GT35r evo 8 vs GT28 GTI started by bigdnno98 View original post
    Comments 81 Comments
    1. folgrz's Avatar
      folgrz -
      Let us know how everything turns out. My buddy just finished his full build on his evo

      Here is a list of parts from what I can remember off the top of my head
      - Ross race pistons 9.5:1 ratio
      - K1 technologies connecting rods
      - Magnus intake manifold
      - Gsc S2 camshafts
      - Ported and polished head with titanium valves springs and retainers
      - Buschur racing ported exhaust manifold
      - FP Black turbocharger (ball bearing)
      - Buschur racing double pumper fuel setup
      - upgraded fuel lines and fuel rails
      - open source ecu reflash
      - speed density conversion

      His car made 475whp on 25psi if I remember correctly. He is now just waiting on an ignition system to come in from Buschur. After that I think he's gonna crank it up to 31psi and see what numbers he lays down. The car pulls like an absolute friggen freight train. Taking a ride in his car makes me want to pick up an evo 9 but finding one that hasn't been molested to $#@! is near impossible.

      Best of luck with the rest of your build!
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Last night I picked up

      FIC Fuel Rail
      Gates Blue Kevlar Timing Belt
      Omni 4 BAR MAP Sensor
      Used Transfer Case to send to Shep for rebuild
      HKS Exhaust (mine is just way too loud)

      I'm still waiting to hear back from the guy on the HKS 280/280 cams.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      This car supposedly made 427HP on pump before I bought it @ 21psi. It doesn't really feel that fast but who knows, I've been riding around @ 15psi anyways LOL
    1. lulz_m3's Avatar
      lulz_m3 -
      So what did you do with your 335? Trade for the Evo? Trade it in? I havent seen a part out thread.
    1. ChuckD05's Avatar
      ChuckD05 -
      you wrote the 335 was a money pit. evos are def sick cars that give back a lot but are DEF more of a money pit than the 335... better if you do things right like people reccomended above like the built tranny and transfer case... but they are mean ass cars..

      good luck with it
    1. Eric335's Avatar
      Eric335 -
      Sick Evo build. Looks good!
    1. rt turbo's Avatar
      rt turbo -
      So, in for video of this thing on some actual boost. It looked asleep in the first set of videos, so hopefully it wakes up on 21 lbs. BTW, I made over 400 awhp on stock evo 8 turbo with just a little more boost that you are running on that 35r. I would think that can should be capable of much more than 421 whp with 21 psi from a gt3582. with those new mods, you should take her and get a one off tune from a pro.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      I'm heading to the 1/4mi Sat. Should get a rematch with the GTI on the way there too. Car will be running 21psi on the way there. Ill get race gas at the track and run 25psi after that.
    1. fastgti69's Avatar
      fastgti69 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      I'm heading to the 1/4mi Sat. Should get a rematch with the GTI on the way there too. Car will be running 21psi on the way there. Ill get race gas at the track and run 25psi after that.
      That would be slaughter LOL. The stage 4 gti still has room for more power though. It has a built bottom end/ motor as well. Your turbo is much bigger though so you're in favor.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      I should find out tomorrow if my internals are upgraded or not. If they are I might put the HTA86r on.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      How do you like the HTA86r?


      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rt turbo Click here to enlarge
      So, in for video of this thing on some actual boost. It looked asleep in the first set of videos, so hopefully it wakes up on 21 lbs. BTW, I made over 400 awhp on stock evo 8 turbo with just a little more boost that you are running on that 35r. I would think that can should be capable of much more than 421 whp with 21 psi from a gt3582. with those new mods, you should take her and get a one off tune from a pro.
    1. rt turbo's Avatar
      rt turbo -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      How do you like the HTA86r?
      I didnt end up with it. I havent been on this board in awhile so I havent changed my sig. I'm going to see what I can do with this turbo before maybe going to a bw batmowheel turbo. Think same spool but capable of 100+more whp.
    1. chrisisnapping's Avatar
      chrisisnapping -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
      That would be slaughter LOL. The stage 4 gti still has room for more power though. It has a built bottom end/ motor as well. Your turbo is much bigger though so you're in favor.
      if only this was a TSI with a GT30. It would be a pretty good race....wonder how far he is from Pat_GLI.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Update. Just ordered HKS 280 cams and baschur ported intake mani. Can't wait to get all these parts on and tuned!
    1. fastgti69's Avatar
      fastgti69 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      Update. Just ordered HKS 280 cams and baschur ported intake mani. Can't wait to get all these parts on and tuned!
      Well, when you install the cams you'll know if its built or not! Lets see some footage of real boost on that monster man. 15 psi is childs play.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
      Well, when you install the cams you'll know if its built or not! Lets see some footage of real boost on that monster man. 15 psi is childs play.
      15psi was an accident. LOL I was showing a buddy the car and accidentally pressed a button on the Greddy profec boost controller. I wasn't sure if it was set on high or low setting previously so I just put it on low and left it. After the race I downloaded the instruction manual and figured out how to work the boost controler. Come to find out I was supposed to be on the high setting, 21psi. I'll be putting all of the new parts on at the same time, with the internals if it needs them. Car prob won't see over 21 psi for a while. 21psi is supposed to be good for 421HP though. We'll see what kind of 1/4mi time I can get Sat and how it does in my GTI rematch on the 21psi.
    1. fastgti69's Avatar
      fastgti69 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      15psi was an accident. LOL I was showing a buddy the car and accidentally pressed a button on the Greddy profec boost controller. I wasn't sure if it was set on high or low setting previously so I just put it on low and left it. After the race I downloaded the instruction manual and figured out how to work the boost controler. Come to find out I was supposed to be on the high setting, 21psi. I'll be putting all of the new parts on at the same time, with the internals if it needs them. Car prob won't see over 21 psi for a while. 21psi is supposed to be good for 421HP though. We'll see what kind of 1/4mi time I can get Sat and how it does in my GTI rematch on the 21psi.
      LOL, I want more now though! haha.
    1. bigdnno98's Avatar
      bigdnno98 -
      Trust me I want more boost too!!!! Below is a list of parts I've bought for the car in the week I've owned it LOL!
      Wally 400LPH e85 pump (actually bought it for my 335i)
      FIC 1250cc injectors
      FIC Fuel rail
      HKS 280 cams
      AEM Adjustable Cam gears
      Omni 4 Bar Map sensor
      Gates Blue kevlar timing belt
      HKS Catback exhaust (the Apexi on it was way too loud)
      Transfer case (sending it to shepard for rebuild)
      Baschur ported intake manifold
      HVAC relocation kit
      double din dash kit
      Tactrix Cable (for logging/tuning)
      Evo 9 rear bumper with difuser
      Have a bid for an Aquamist HFS-6 (still haven't decided on meth or e85) If I get the meth kit it'll be too good of a deal to turn down.

      I can't wait to put it all on with that FP HTA 3586r turbo and new tune!!!!
    1. fastgti69's Avatar
      fastgti69 -
      Car already had one huge list of mods, you just added/changed them up so much already!
    1. lulz_m3's Avatar
      lulz_m3 -
      Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
      15psi was an accident. LOL I was showing a buddy the car and accidentally pressed a button on the Greddy profec boost controller. I wasn't sure if it was set on high or low setting previously so I just put it on low and left it. After the race I downloaded the instruction manual and figured out how to work the boost controler. Come to find out I was supposed to be on the high setting, 21psi. I'll be putting all of the new parts on at the same time, with the internals if it needs them. Car prob won't see over 21 psi for a while. 21psi is supposed to be good for 421HP though. We'll see what kind of 1/4mi time I can get Sat and how it does in my GTI rematch on the 21psi.
      Which boost controller? On my Honda I wired my profec B to the horn switch so I could switch between high and low boost on the fly.