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    • A peak behind the scene of BMW Forum politics - BimmerPost targets ModBargains

      The BMW forum game is honestly pretty twisted. Full of back room deals with vendors struggling for dominance of one another attempting to get every last dollar from every last user. Some may say this is business but on some websites this is how they extort money. Pay enough to get preferential treatment and your competition will find their posts are deleted, fans silenced, censorship is employed, and those who speak out are banned. This is exactly what ModBargains is experiencing.

      ModBargains was forced off of BimmerPost due to underhanded tactics and came to BimmerBoost looking for an open and fair atmosphere. This website is known by its users and vendors alike as the place that does not play BimmerPost's censorship and banning games favoring certain vendors. To put it mildly, you can buy yourself a favorable position on BimmerPost whereas here we expect vendors to stand on their own two feet. So if a user has something to say, and that something may be bad, we favor the vendor making things right with their customer. This certainly doesn't help the bottom line but respect isn't something you can buy. It's these dirty politics that are one of the main reasons that BimmerBoost and the GermanBoost network exist and are thriving.

      So what happened? ModBargains was on the wrong end of these politics and now any positive reviews of them are being systematically deleted to make it appear as if nobody has anything postiive to say about them. Additionally, if you are on BimmerPost and wish to say something positive about ModBargains, you will be banned and the name will come up censored. The right to free speech or even at the very least for members of the BMW community to voice their pleasure with a vendor are not things allowed if it isn't a vendor who is paying off the right person the right amount in the right manner.

      This was sent to BimmerBoost from a disgruntled BimmerPost member who attempted to say he was happy with ModBargains:


      "You didn't hear this from me... I don't want bimmerpost knowing I am telling you about it, but I read your thread about shift s3ctor sponsorship and thought you would be interested in hearing this.

      I guess they are now censoring their own forum users. Anytime somebody posts the word "modbargains" it appears as "***********" instead. Popular threads mentioning ModBargains are censored and then closed or completely deleted. example: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769987

      They also are deleting positive customer review threads in the feedback section and keeping the negative review threads on their forum. There are over 100 positive customer reviews in the last 3 months that have been deleted.

      There's an old saying... "Give a person enough rope and they just might hang themselves." That might apply here... censoring the internet like this is simply not acceptable... especially a public forum. I think it's only a matter of time before people notice. A lot of the customers don't know their positive reviews have been deleted. Many of them haven't realized their posts are being censored and closed...[/quote]

      Here is another thread where you notice a user listing his mods and ModBargains is censored out so the user isn't allowed to say where he got his mods he is happy with: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618868"



      So how about that? Hundreds of positive reviews are being deleted yet a handful of negative reviews, which obviously ModBargains won't even be allowed to address, are allowed to stay in order to sway public perception and the users are being treated like blind sheep. Is this a power ploy by another vendor in SoCal who goes head to head with ModBargains? You be the judge. Regardless, it's happening and it's sickening.

      BimmerBoost does not like having to link to its competition but there are times you put pride aside and do what is right. In this case, letting people know how business is conducted "over there" versus here and how it affects you, the enthusiast.

      BimmerBoost isn't afraid of BimmerPost and isn't afraid to make these issues known. We are the voice of the BMW community and this kind of thing won't be silenced. BimmerBoost thanks its vendors who want to help change the currently corrupt climate that exists in the BMW forum world. And if we have to do it ourselves then so be it.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: A peak behind the scenes of BMW Forum politics - BimmerPost targets ModBargains started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 103 Comments
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Modbargains is a good company, they messed up with some thnigs with me but were super quick to fix them so I didnt even know something was late lol.

        Jurrian @ Modbargains is a great guy to deal with.
      1. spool twice's Avatar
        spool twice -
        I've had nothing but great experience with Alan @ ModBargains. Keep up the good work!
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by spool twice Click here to enlarge
        I've had nothing but great experience with Alan @ ModBargains.
        Alan is a great guy to deal with.
      1. BavarianBullet's Avatar
        BavarianBullet -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I really don't understand how we have as man tri-state performance people as we do, something in the water over there.
        I wondered the same thing about 15+ years ago with Mustangs- why so many of the fast cars in sanctioned race events were tri-state, esp new jersey. It's the $$$. High per capita income. Racing is a resources ($$$) contest before any wheels ever turn.

        Sorry to hear about modbargains. I dont know much about the controversy but were they mistreated while still an active vendor or after they had a disagreement and stopped paying fees?

        Either way bimmerpoop sucks nuts.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dmitriyo Click here to enlarge
        This is my favorite part about the forum upon registration.
        An individual is entitled to one single account. Multiple accounts are strictly prohibited and by registering under multiple accounts you agree to all liabilities related to violation of this stipulatiom.
        If you have been previously banned from Bimmerpost.com (or any of its sub-sites and sub-forums) and succeed in re-registering an account (using any and all means to bypass the ban) by the use of, including, but not limited to, alternative email addresses or IP obscuration, you thereby consent to a $15,000 USD membership reinstatement fee (per username created after an initial ban). By clicking on the register button below you hereby agree to pay such membership reinstatement fee. Such reinstatement fee will be owed to Bimmerpost.com even if your account is subsequently banned. By clicking register below, you also hereby agree that any legal disputes arising from your use of this site will be subject to New York law and adjudicated in a New York court of law.



        That's hysterical! I'd love to see them try and collect lol.
      1. FLYING X5's Avatar
        FLYING X5 -
        So sad to see e90 falling so far... Actually it's not sad at all... I used to still go there when I was still stateside, but I don't even bother now that i'm 'deployed' and I guess I haven't really stuck around on here either, now that I've decided to stop modding my X... It's really a shame that they have no regard for people or business reputations...

        They should be liable for the bad reputation they have given Modbargins, but I know they won't be, they created the bad reputation by allowing those vendors who pay more lip service to tailor the site to their advantage...

        As for Tri-Staters being more mod happy... It's true, something in the water, must be.... I've already planned mods for my next ride and I haven't even purchased the car yet... But that will have to wait another 8 months...
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        Sticky, it will take some time, but slowly and surely you will be able to bring more people here. Its not always about the advertising, remember its the word of mouth that spreads the news more often than not...more people 'hear' or 'talk' about the forum, the more people will come looking.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BavarianBullet Click here to enlarge
        Sorry to hear about modbargains. I dont know much about the controversy but were they mistreated while still an active vendor or after they had a disagreement and stopped paying fees?
        While still an active vendor.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Shady like this kinda stuff???


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      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Shady like this kinda stuff???


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        HAHAHAAA!! EXACTLY!! Love it when dudes get called out! which is it bra!? did you upgrade 535-550 or go straight to the 550!? LOL!

        OT, how much is he selling his 535 kit for?
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        $5.8k + Shipping. Had another thread from 2 weeks ago & had it priced at $6k + Shipping
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        $5.8k + Shipping. Had another thread from 2 weeks ago & had it priced at $6k + Shipping
        damn.. thats pretty close
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        $5.8k + Shipping. Had another thread from 2 weeks ago & had it priced at $6k + Shipping
        That's dirt cheap. I sold my first kit for $11k.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        That's dirt cheap. I sold my first kit for $11k.
        Well it's the base kit, but he doesn't confirm in either thread how many miles he's had the kit
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Well it's the base kit, but he doesn't confirm in either thread how many miles he's had the kit
        Still... good way to get blown for cheap.
      1. TRES's Avatar
        TRES -
        this is interesting news all along I thought the gold level sponsors got gold from selling alot of products and excellent CS similar to ebay. Its sad.
      1. bimmerocious's Avatar
        bimmerocious -
        who actually owns the forum?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bimmerocious Click here to enlarge
        who actually owns the forum?
        Which one?
      1. bimmerocious's Avatar
        bimmerocious -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Which one?
        the post
      1. folgrz's Avatar
        folgrz -
        Jason Liu