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    • World Motorsports creating a twin turbo kit for Mercedes 63 AMG Motors (M156/M159) - Prototype SLS AMG Twin Turbo Kit

      This is a rather interesting development in the Mercedes-Benz AMG performance scene. Truth is, World Motorsports is a newer name and one not seen on BenzBoost before. A Mercedes SLS AMG Twin Turbo kit certainly is quite a way to make an entrance. They already seem to have the turbos mounted but hardware is only one part of puzzle. What about the tuning? What about the impact of the torque on the SLS dual clutch transmission? These are just some of the problems posed.

      World Motorsports is located in Torrance, California and Benzboost was invited out to see what they are up to. A very generous offer as most companies won't allow anyone to visit when they are preparing for a show (SEMA) and wrapping up very difficult work. Apparently they are going to try to make it to SEMA in Las Vegas which is less than three weeks away. Not a long window but it would be impressive if they were to make it.

      Plumbing is said to be 80% complete at this point and the car should be hitting the dyno soon. BenzBoost will hopefully be able to provide more info shortly after stopping by the shop. For now, enjoy the development pictures below.














      This article was originally published in forum thread: World Motorsports claiming to build a twin turbo M156/M159 motor? SLS prototype twin turbo kit started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        Wow all this because of some misinfo being posted
      1. PetroC63's Avatar
        PetroC63 -
        This could have all been avoided.

        Craig posted the following on 10/11/12. Reads like an open invitation to me.Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cpais Click here to enlarge
        I guess I will see you tomorrow. We are open from 9-5. I would be happy to show you around.

        -Craig
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PetroC63 Click here to enlarge
        This could have all been avoided.

        Craig posted the following on 10/21/12. Reads like an open invitation to me.Click here to enlarge
        An open invitation for the following day. You are assuming that Sticky had no plans that day...or, would cancel everything for the following day to go to the shop. Sure it would have been easier to just pick up the phone. Lots of internet drama would have never existed if people just picked up the phone. But, some people don't like to talk on the phone. Younger people rely heavily on txt, social media etc as their primary means of communication. I do, but for different reasons....I simply don't like talking on the phone.

        But the flip side to all this is the fact that Craig could have been much more forthcoming and open about the project. Primarily in the area of tuning. When asked/questioned...he lashed out at the members and this site in general and came across very poorly IMO. All he had to say was "Weistec is doing the tuning for this project" and none of this would have occurred. I'm sure he's a great guy in person - how many times have we heard that on these boards ? But it's not like Craig is new to the internet - look at how he's handled himself on this issue over on MBW. Why do you think that is ? Clearly, he has more respect for the membership there than he does here.
      1. AMGFlame's Avatar
        AMGFlame -
        Joseph,

        First of all, I want to congratulate you on organizing a well maintained established German forum. I am an active member on the Teamspeed forums.I have been viewing the threads here for quite some time and I really love how it is put up. You have a lot of support from vendors and members.
        I wish to comment on a few things and I hope you do not take it the wrong way. You seem to get involved in many discussions and some of them are really heated. As an admin you shouldn't do this. You are to support members with info on tuning, Upgrades and car modifications.
        Take this thread for example, I mean you really beat down WMS for a bunch of rumors. Had you called Craig and accepted his invitation, you would have for sure had some correct info on the TT SLS and informed us about it.
        I visited Craig at the shop. He is a very top class person. I saw the SLS. Pure vicious beast. I really think as an admin you could have done what I did and more.
        Another thing, you shouldn't let loser like LZH continue to beat on members and vendors. Clearly he has No knowledge in this matter. He has been on other forums intimidating and disturbing members over his useless comments. As an admin you shouldnt allow this. You should never lose good people like Earl and keep douchebags like LZH.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AMGFlame Click here to enlarge
        Joseph,

        First of all, I want to congratulate you on organizing a well maintained established German forum. I am an active member on the Teamspeed forums.I have been viewing the threads here for quite some time and I really love how it is put up. You have a lot of support from vendors and members.
        I wish to comment on a few things and I hope you do not take it the wrong way. You seem to get involved in many discussions and some of them are really heated. As an admin you shouldn't do this. You are to support members with info on tuning, Upgrades and car modifications.
        Take this thread for example, I mean you really beat down WMS for a bunch of rumors. Had you called Craig and accepted his invitation, you would have for sure had some correct info on the TT SLS and informed us about it.
        I visited Craig at the shop. He is a very top class person. I saw the SLS. Pure vicious beast. I really think as an admin you could have done what I did and more.
        Another thing, you shouldn't let loser like LZH continue to beat on members and vendors. Clearly he has No knowledge in this matter. He has been on other forums intimidating and disturbing members over his useless comments. As an admin you shouldnt allow this. You should never lose good people like Earl and keep douchebags like LZH.
        LOL - Nice first post. Enjoy how the rep system works.

        Would love to get an IP check on this @Sticky . I'm willing to bet it's from the Middle East...
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        And look who I found posting on Teamspeed - LOL

        http://teamspeed.com/forums/members/sls-qatar.html

        Coincidence ??
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Joe - you feel Craig should have come to you.
        The majority of the members here who have spoken appear to side with me and agree that had you gone or had you called Craig this could have been avoided.

        You won't admit your wrong and we will continue to think you are.

        xmas time so lets bury the hatchet (in no ones back).
      1. PetroC63's Avatar
        PetroC63 -
        Actually, I assumed Sticky would pick up the phone and call Craig to set up a meeting until I realized he prefers other means of communication. No big deal, I dislike talking on the phone too. lol

        I agree, Craig could have handled himself a little better. This is an epic build and does not deserve 10+ pages of drama.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        An open invitation for the following day. You are assuming that Sticky had no plans that day...or, would cancel everything for the following day to go to the shop. Sure it would have been easier to just pick up the phone. Lots of internet drama would have never existed if people just picked up the phone. But, some people don't like to talk on the phone. Younger people rely heavily on txt, social media etc as their primary means of communication. I do, but for different reasons....I simply don't like talking on the phone.

        But the flip side to all this is the fact that Craig could have been much more forthcoming and open about the project. Primarily in the area of tuning. When asked/questioned...he lashed out at the members and this site in general and came across very poorly IMO. All he had to say was "Weistec is doing the tuning for this project" and none of this would have occurred. I'm sure he's a great guy in person - how many times have we heard that on these boards ? But it's not like Craig is new to the internet - look at how he's handled himself on this issue over on MBW. Why do you think that is ? Clearly, he has more respect for the membership there than he does here.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PetroC63 Click here to enlarge
        Actually, I assumed Sticky would pick up the phone and call Craig to set up a meeting until I realized he prefers other means of communication. No big deal, I dislike talking on the phone too. lol

        I agree, Craig could have handled himself a little better. This is an epic build and does not deserve 10+ pages of drama.
        Couldn't agree more.
      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        From what I take there was some problems with sticky and Craig before don't want to get to involved but I think that's Craig's reason not to post much here? Also the first couple posts are insulting looking at it from the outside, Craig is a good guy, everyone here knows that this is a tough group... I've spent hours just b/s with Craig and he doesn't get into the talking about this and that he was always ill show you kinda guy. Craig is the number one reason why my car achieved what it did. It wasn't cause he sat around and talked about it, it's cause he helped found a direction to go with and we went, on going to text Craig and see if he wants to come comment I doubt it but maybe he will explain some things.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AMGFlame Click here to enlarge
        Joseph,

        First of all, I want to congratulate you on organizing a well maintained established German forum. I am an active member on the Teamspeed forums.I have been viewing the threads here for quite some time and I really love how it is put up. You have a lot of support from vendors and members.
        I wish to comment on a few things and I hope you do not take it the wrong way. You seem to get involved in many discussions and some of them are really heated. As an admin you shouldn't do this. You are to support members with info on tuning, Upgrades and car modifications.
        Take this thread for example, I mean you really beat down WMS for a bunch of rumors. Had you called Craig and accepted his invitation, you would have for sure had some correct info on the TT SLS and informed us about it.
        I visited Craig at the shop. He is a very top class person. I saw the SLS. Pure vicious beast. I really think as an admin you could have done what I did and more.
        Another thing, you shouldn't let loser like LZH continue to beat on members and vendors. Clearly he has No knowledge in this matter. He has been on other forums intimidating and disturbing members over his useless comments. As an admin you shouldnt allow this. You should never lose good people like Earl and keep douchebags like LZH.
        I accepted the invitation a while ago as the article states so not sure what you mean. I appreciate the kind words but we don't ban ppl just for different opinions.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I accepted the invitation a while ago as the article states so not sure what you mean. I appreciate the kind words butbwe dont ban ppl just for different opinions.
        How about banning for the same person using multiple accounts ?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dodger63 Click here to enlarge
        From what I take there was some problems with sticky and Craig before don't want to get to involved but I think that's Craig's reason not to post much here? Also the first couple posts are insulting looking at it from the outside, Craig is a good guy, everyone here knows that this is a tough group... I've spent hours just b/s with Craig and he doesn't get into the talking about this and that he was always ill show you kinda guy. Craig is the number one reason why my car achieved what it did. It wasn't cause he sat around and talked about it, it's cause he helped found a direction to go with and we went, on going to text Craig and see if he wants to come comment I doubt it but maybe he will explain some things.
        I'm curious as to what problems? I barely even know who this guy is and he jumped all over myself and the forum which doesn't exactly make him seem all that inviting.

        I'm glad you get along with him and all. Look, I have no interest it's the M156/M159 guys that want to know about this and I'm local as well as one of my premier vendors is tuning it. It's that simple...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        How about banning for the same person using multiple accounts ?
        Absolutely, no duplicate accounts.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        Joe - you feel Craig should have come to you.
        The majority of the members here who have spoken appear to side with me and agree that had you gone or had you called Craig this could have been avoided.

        You won't admit your wrong and we will continue to think you are.

        xmas time so lets bury the hatchet (in no ones back).
        It's simple to say had Craig posted a time, date, or indicated he was interested in me stopping by after me accepting the invitation and asking MULTIPLE follow ups this would have been avoided. I reached out even after his insults. I'm not going to continue doing so just to be kicked for it.

        The last few posts would say it isn't the majority but let's just bury this. Please just allow me to conduct my business and as already stated there is a date set so the holidays will go by then we can get back to this build.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PetroC63 Click here to enlarge
        This could have all been avoided.

        Craig posted the following on 10/11/12. Reads like an open invitation to me.Click here to enlarge
        In response:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Craig, would you let me know when you have time please? Would next Friday work?
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I have absolutely no objection, it's really up to @cpais .
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        If he's cool with you giving me the number, sure.
        NEVER GOT HIS NUMBER

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        @cpais Well Craig, I think the best thing to do is for you to let me know what day works best for you and I can go down and take look as well as ask you questions regarding this turbo setup. This week I'm busy trying to make that airport shootout but just let me know if you have time next week, whatever day you want.
        Considering he posted his invitation here I don't think it's out of line for me to respond here as well...
      1. Dodger63's Avatar
        Dodger63 -
        Lets make this simple sticky joe if I may when is a good time for you to go learn some real facts about this build? I will mediate the meeting
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Dodger63 Click here to enlarge
        Lets make this simple sticky joe if I may when is a good time for you to go learn some real facts about this build? I will mediate the meeting
        For $#@!s sake Dodger we aren't exchanging nuclear secrets or planning an invasion of Russia.

        For the millionth time, Craig specified a time and date for a meet and I said I would be there at that time and date. What else is necessary? Why is this so damn complicated?
      1. George Smooth's Avatar
        George Smooth -
        Craig didn't say very nice things about the forum members. Maybe it was a bad day which you shouldn't be having if you in business and conducting yourself on a public forum.
        He gave Sticky a pretty open invite thinking he would pitch up camera and all. I like that because it doesnt give the shop time to prep their p,ace to make it camera ready which means things there are ok at all times.
        If it was my forum I would have jumped at it the content would be unique to the site therefore I wouldn't wait for a red carpet I would jump in my car and go. Maybe the eventual visit will result in a new clean thread with information for the forum and potential sales for Craig.
        Being a foreign customer of products myself without the luxury of visiting various vendors what is online makes a big difference to purchase decisions.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
        If it was my forum I would have jumped at it the content would be unique
        Trust me I jumped at it from the beginning...