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    • Supercharged DCT E92 M3 versus tuned Nissan GT-R - ESS VT1 535 SC M3 with meth versus Cobb tuned GT-R from a roll

      The Nissan GT-R is a very tough opponent and currently one of the most popular tuner platforms out there. The M3 has the disadvantage of not having turbos but makes up for it with a larger displacement motor having a wider powerband. What many people forget is the M3 is lighter than the GT-R, rear wheel drive, and also features a dual clutch transmission with tight gearing. With equal power the M3 actually will have the advantage from a roll but obviously the GT-R is a monster from a stop thanks to the traction afforded by its all wheel drive.


      In the video below the race shows the M3's strength which is the top end especially with a centrifugal blower like the one used in the ESS VT1 kit which builds boost with revs. The ESS supercharger kit is modified with a higher boost pulley (about 6 psi) and supplemented with meth injection. The GT-R features exhaust modifications including a mid pipe and a Cobb OTS 93 octane tune.

      The GT-R gets the jump but the M3 is able to reel it in and pass at higher speeds. From a stop on the street, the GT-R would likely build too large of a lead thanks to the all wheel drive for the M3 to overcome on street tires. On the highway though, the M3 proves how capable of a platform it can be. Enjoy the race, the GT-R is not unbeatable.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 Raping ANOTHER GTR! started by LostMarine View original post
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      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Yet another great video, thread, and article!

        I like the atmosphere around here. No bashing or negativity. Just pure fun...

        Keep it up LostMarine...I can't wait for you to pick up a couple more psi Click here to enlarge

        Is that 40psi tire pressure measured when cold or hot?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        i dunno, later that same night i tried it both ways against @mrsqueeze and @Sledgehammer . traction just wasnt there, and if it was, the rev limit was tapped. No doubt i need to practice a bit more, but all my runs were in 3rd gear from a 45ish roll, some cars i pull, some I dont
        Where you start RPM wise is everything. Leaving a lot on the table. Stop running pussy tires.
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        I know two time's vs LM I started in 2 gear around 5000 rpm's maybe a little more not sure with the new gears I have in the car still learning them. My Peak torque is right around there turbo' I get some wheel spin then I shifted to 3 and 4 gear.

        The one time I tried 3 gear for the hell of hit VS @Sledgehammer @LostMarine it didn't work out to good. I was able to past LM but Sledgehammer was out.

        I don't know how the M3 is geared but I would think it would need to be higher than 4500 rpm's.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        @LostMarine what tires are those again? Pilot Sports? 285 or 295 width?

        The Vette is running Nitto Invos sized 304/30/19 on 19x11 wheels... I'm rolling in 2nd gear at around 4K for those runs and at that rpm I am making 520lb-ft per the dyno sheets I have. I am seeing almost no spin, if yourre seeing spin I would suspect the tires are the issue as your peak tq doesnt hit 400lb-ft if I am correct?

        I saw me you @Mr.Squeeze all get together sometime this week and get a run in from a gear speed you choose. For instance running from 3rd gear in your sweet spot as that wont be the best place for our cars but we would all start in the same gear. That will highlight the real power curves and speed differences in each car. It would be interesting to see who pulls when, where & how IMO. Now if we could get @akh23456 to run that would be even more interesting.
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        @LostMarine what tires are those again? Pilot Sports? 285 or 295 width?

        The Vette is running Nitto Invos sized 304/30/19 on 19x11 wheels... I'm rolling in 2nd gear at around 4K for those runs and at that rpm I am making 520lb-ft per the dyno sheets I have. I am seeing almost no spin, if yourre seeing spin I would suspect the tires are the issue as your peak tq doesnt hit 400lb-ft if I am correct?

        I saw me you @Mr.Squeeze all get together sometime this week and get a run in from a gear speed you choose. For instance running from 3rd gear in your sweet spot as that wont be the best place for our cars but we would all start in the same gear. That will highlight the real power curves and speed differences in each car. It would be interesting to see who pulls when, where & how IMO. Now if we could get @akh23456 to run that would be even more interesting.

        Hopefully we can get to maybe this weekend if he's free. Ill hit him up. Where in central jersey are you @Sledgehammer?
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
        Hopefully we can get to maybe this weekend if he's free. Ill hit him up. Where in central jersey are you @Sledgehammer ?
        Sent you a PM
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        ahh here we go....ill be spectating again.....smh
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        You know I am down Sunday is good for me since I will be down at Atco.

        I am down to do a run gear for gear and a set speed.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        im on 295/35/19 pilot sports. it was cold 38 psi to be exact.

        Its most likely driver error. its just very difficult witht he sound/honk situation, but if i close the valves, ill bang the revlimits for not knowing where i am in a gear as its too quite. ill practice some this week.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        I like the atmosphere around here. No bashing or negativity.Just pure fun...
        yup, the way we like it. if i was prepared, we would see some domestic "old school muscle" and jdm "new school hustle" on tape as well..
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        If this goes down on Sunday, I'd like an invite por favor Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        If this goes down on Sunday, I'd like an invite por favor Click here to enlarge
        lol, your welcome to come, but dont expect any action until you make the jump from a kids toy, to a mans machine..

        BTW, 09 M3, jerez black, dct, idrive ect, 46k @ turnersville bmw, call our boy Ali, he'll hook you up Click here to enlarge
      1. kthxbye's Avatar
        kthxbye -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        BTW, 09 M3, jerez black, dct, idrive ect, 46k @ turnersville bmw, call our boy Ali, he'll hook you up Click here to enlarge
        Click here to enlarge
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        lol, your welcome to come, but dont expect any action until you make the jump from a kids toy, to a mans machine..

        BTW, 09 M3, jerez black, dct, idrive ect, 46k @ turnersville bmw, call our boy Ali, he'll hook you up Click here to enlarge
        If Obama's already added $5 trillion to the debt, I'm pretty sure that the taxpayers won't miss another $75k (thinking the car, some small stuff like wheels, exhaust & the G-Power SKII CS or VF650 kits)..... Thinking after the campaign finishes & I find a steady job, I'll start looking to flip the 335 for something more "grown up"
      1. TRES's Avatar
        TRES -
        nice vid
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        lol, your welcome to come, but dont expect any action until you make the jump from a kids toy, to a mans machine..

        Something like a FI Corvette for instance
        Wow... Truer words have never been spokenClick here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Hahahaha, good one Click here to enlarge
      1. StinkyM's Avatar
        StinkyM -
        LostMarine Are you in south jersey? If so, next time I am home we will have to meet up. I live 5 mins from Turnersville BMW.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by StinkyM Click here to enlarge
        LostMarine Are you in south jersey? If so, next time I am home we will have to meet up. I live 5 mins from Turnersville BMW.
        yup, have we met? what do you have?
      1. StinkyM's Avatar
        StinkyM -
        Nah, we have never met, but my parents live in Williamstown so I visit frequently. Next trip will be in March and then again to pick up my E46 M3 in June.