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    • Boosted E9X M3 Showdown - Supercharged ESS VT1-535 w/meth vs. Active Autowerke Stage 2+ w/meth + ESS VT2-600 - All DCT

      Here is a nice little boosted M3 battle for your viewing pleasure. This comes courtesy of BimmerBoost member LostMarine who is the camera car with his supercharged DCT E92 M3 running the ESS VT1-535 kit with a higher boost pulley and meth. The white E90 M3 belongs to BimmerBoost member akh23456 also being a DCT car but running an Active Autowerke Stage 2+ setup with a bigger blower and meth. The final car is running the ESS VT2-600 supercharger kit with a catless exhaust.


      Now, the Active Autowerke car puts a hurting on Lost Marine's ESS-VT1 setup. It straight up dusts him there is no easy way to say it. That is fine considering he is running the lowest power kit from ESS and it has no intercooler. What is fairly surprising is how well he does against the ESS VT2-600 setup, losing, but putting up a very good fight until the VT2-600 slowly pulls up top. We are guessing that VT2-600 owner is going to be looking into meth very quickly.

      No transmission or shift excuses in this video with all M3's having the dual clutch transmission. All cars are supposedly on 93 octane but you never know. We do not get to see the Active Autowerke car run the ESS VT2-600 setup but it's not difficult to come to the realization that he would make easy work of it. That is one very quick M3 and we would like to get the full specs on the upgraded blower it is running as soon as possible. Very nice races, enjoy.

      @LostMarine @akh23456

      This article was originally published in forum thread: AA Stg2+ E90 M3 Vs ESS VT1535 w/Meth E92 M3 Vs ESS VT2600 E92 M3- All DCT started by LostMarine View original post
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      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Thanks for clarifying on some of my questions guys.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        All the stage 2 kits now come with the exact same setup as Akash.
        Compared to the previous GTS8550, what kind of power are these kits putting down in comparison to the prior advertised 625hp/450tq at 6.5-7.5psi?

        Thanks!
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
        i upgraded to the 8555 blower basically the same blower but a little bigger fan i believe and can sustain a little more power. I am running around 8.3-8.5 psi and i think normal kits run 7.5. I think now all the Active kits come with the new blower but i don't know the psi, i would assume 7.5. For the meth system we can only run 50/50.

        I might be running M33 hopefully next week if he's goes down to Mpact. If not i might be heading to NYC after Mpact so we may run sunday.
        Your car is a beast didnt think it was that fast man great runs.

        If you come up this way next weekend hit me up if you want to run.
      1. BrenM3's Avatar
        BrenM3 -
        We'd love to see dyno sheets of the new blower this kit seems FAST and the new VF650 as well.
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
        We'd love to see dyno sheets of the new blower this kit seems FAST and the new VF650 as well.
        I would love to see data from the same dyno of VT2-650+Meth, GTS8555 Stage 2+Meth, and VF650+Meth all overlayed on top of one another, haha.

        @LostMarine...MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        lol, have you tried getting all the same blowers together at the same time before? I have, its like herding cats..
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        Thanks for clarifying on some of my questions guys.


        Compared to the previous GTS8550, what kind of power are these kits putting down in comparison to the prior advertised 625hp/450tq at 6.5-7.5psi?

        Thanks!
        It makes just another 10 hp or so..
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        lol, have you tried getting all the same blowers together at the same time before? I have, its like herding cats..
        Now I wonder if the limiting factor is simply locational reasons, or guys just not wanting to meet up, haha.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        It makes just another 10 hp or so..
        Nice!
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by prodigymb Click here to enlarge
        yes ...

        - 600 driver is a noob who doesnt race much and LM is far more experienced, swap drivers in that race and you will be surprised lol
        - 600 car was on 20" wheels last night, it's definetly quicker on 19s

        when 600 car ran 11.6 @ 122 it was on 19s

        Judging by how AKs car MOVES out it is making more power/torque then the 600 car which made 519rwhp on a dynojet with the high flow cat exhaust. there is no magic here ...

        Thats good info. do you think its the gearing change for the wheels, and not the weight?

        Those g2' in 20" weight about 1lb less per wheel than my 19's. (I was pissed when i got them and they weighted 24.5/FR 26.5/r since they are advertised as lightweight and compared to F14, which in fact are very light) difference in actual tires though too, but its pretty close. Whats the gearing change by going from stock 19's to 20's? Maybe thats why i would jump but he reel me in?
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        That's sick as hell bro. AK's car is just nuts, I didn't even expect that at all!. That VT2 600 kit pulled nicely up top. LM your car is definitely $#@!ing fast man. Nice car and good video.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Thanks. I told you guys in the meth thread, once i had meth working properly and the new pulley on, it felt like a rocket, good 30-40 hp gain. id say about 30hp judging from the 600 car making 520 and creeping by me, so from my 470 to right at 500 is plausible
      1. Andrew@activeautowerke's Avatar
        Andrew@activeautowerke -
        Yeah that meth is doing wonders for your car Lostmarine! Im more surprised about your race with the 600 kit more than anything.

        You can really see how the Vortech blower lacks in low and mid range power especially with out meth.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        You can really see how the Vortech blower lacks in low and mid range power especially with out meth.
        I just want to point out, THAT Vortech blower model on that kit. There are many others that are much larger than any SC anyone is running on the M3 by a pretty darn large amount. Like mine for example, the YSI. That blower holds the S65 V8 record for power last I checked and nobody is in the ballpark: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...I-supercharger

        Plus, did we get the specs on the upgraded blower that AKH is running? I mean that is not the standard HKS blower which compared to the V3 blowers and T-Trim blowers is not capable of flowing the same CFM as the Vortech units used for most kits...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Here is a nice little boosted M3 battle for your viewing pleasure. This comes courtesy of BimmerBoost member LostMarine who is the camera car with his supercharged DCT E92 M3 running the ESS VT1-535 kit with a higher boost pulley and meth. The white E90 M3 belongs to BimmerBoost member akh23456 also being a DCT car but running an Active Autowerke Stage 2+ setup with a bigger blower and meth. The final car is running the ESS VT2-600 supercharger kit with a catless exhaust.

        Click here to enlarge

        Now, the Active Autowerke car puts a hurting on Lost Marine's ESS-VT1 setup. It straight up dusts him there is no easy way to say it. That is fine considering he is running the lowest power kit from ESS and it has no intercooler. What is fairly surprising is how well he does against the ESS VT2-600 setup, losing, but putting up a very good fight until the VT2-600 slowly pulls up top. We are guessing that VT2-600 owner is going to be looking into meth very quickly.

        No transmission or shift excuses in this video with all M3's having the dual clutch transmission. All cars are supposedly on 93 octane but you never know. We do not get to see the Active Autowerke car run the ESS VT2-600 setup but it's not difficult to come to the realization that he would make easy work of it. That is one very quick M3 and we would like to get the full specs on the upgraded blower it is running as soon as possible. Very nice races, enjoy.

        @LostMarine @akh23456

      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Moved to S65 since this is an all S65 V8 topic.
      1. MrClean335i's Avatar
        MrClean335i -
        Nice race. LostMarine needs to start thinking about upgrading to the VT2-650 package.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MrClean335i Click here to enlarge
        Nice race. I think LostMarine needs to start thinking about upgrading to the VT2-650 package.
        That he does.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Andrew@activeautowerke Click here to enlarge
        All the stage 2 kits now come with the exact same setup as Akash.
        I don't know how I missed this. May I have the specs please? Why wasn't this blower used to begin with?

        Also do they run the boost Akash is running?
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't know how I missed this. May I have the specs please? Why wasn't this blower used to begin with?

        Also do they run the boost Akash is running?
        Here's a dyno that Andrew@ActiveAutowerke posted on another forum. Of their latest Stage 2 kit. It is running exactly the same spec as akh23456. It has the newer GTS5555 and I assume same boost.

        Click here to enlarge

        As stated by Andrew as well, it should be good for about 10hp and 5tq more, with it's 8100RPM redline.

        Andrew should definitely start up a new thread on here explaining the latest kits their offer. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        @LostMarine Great video bro, this is why I mess with you. NO BS, just runs and real results... Kudo's to each car, I know the area and love those tunnels. The other side of the bridge I thought was bumpy but I appear to be wrong LOL.

        You got walked hard by the AA car but still impressive that you held where you did. The ESS car however causes me to laugh a bit as I feel like a custom tune may keep you up front. The bigger question in my head is can you upgrade to a FMIC, I would think something custom built would make much faster. I'd love to see you with a FMIC and tuned I think you walk the 600 car and sit on the AA car's tail.

        @akh23456 Should you be in the Central or Northen NJ are I'd like a taste when the FRC is complete.
      1. longboarder's Avatar
        longboarder -
        Great vids guys. Curious on the run against Akash, what MPH/RPM did the roll-on take place? The big takeaway is how the AA car pulls so hard instantaneously. I don't know much about the AA/HKS blower but it must be making a lot more mid-range boost if the run started at say, 4,500 rpm. It would be interesting to see a boost graph of that blower overlayed against a boost graph from the Vortech making similar top-end boost. I guess the real match is Akash vs an ESS 600/625/650 with meth making the same top end boost. That would be cool to see.

        Out here on the West Coast some of you will be attending the Shift-S3ctor Airstrip Event in November. I will be there with an ESS 600 + catless + progressive meth and I would love to run other supercharged M3's. We have mostly ESS and VF here but I'm sure there has to be an AA blown M3 in Cali.