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    • Tuned E60 M5 with 2 passengers races a DCT E92 M3 with mild mods from a roll - Video

      M5 vs. M3. One of the great debates of our time that has the potential to turn any BMW message board into a full blown e-riot. When the DCT M3 first came out many M5 owners refused to believe the M3 could keep up with it. Well, reality is it definitely can especially from down low where the lower weight and dual clutch transmission help versus the more powerful (and heavier) M5.

      In the video we see in the runs from a roll that whomever gets the jump holds their lead. Now, the M5 has two passengers so without the passengers we would expect it to start a slow and steady pull versus the M3 the longer the race would go. From a stop however the M3 shows the advantage the DCT transmission has launching versus the M5's SMG managing to beat it.

      Mods on the M5 are an Evolve R Tune and RPI Scoops. The M3 has RPI scoops, BMW Performance Exhaust, and a Gintani X-Pipe with high flow cats. Enjoy the race and we hope to see a rematch once the M3 gets a tune (and the M5 ditches the passengers).




      This article was originally published in forum thread: M5 vs M3 DCT Competition started by TZ04XJR View original post
      Comments 42 Comments
      1. BrenM3's Avatar
        BrenM3 -
        Love watching people enjoy their cars and not talking $#@! on the internet!!!
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Good video and clean runs.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        That M3 Needs the Evolve- R tune ! Click here to enlarge
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        Man I love watching your videos. If I was a bazziillioonnaire, I would swap an S85B50 in every BMW.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        That M3 Needs the Evolve- R tune ! Click here to enlarge
        That....or an Evolve Supercharger Kit, haha.
      1. longboarder's Avatar
        longboarder -
        Awesome vids. It would be good to see the runs with 1 passenger each. I would assume your M5 is quite a bit faster, all things equal, given that you were carrying 2 additional passengers.

        Is the M3 stock or modded? I would assume some mods to be able to trap @ 115.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Great vid... M5 with 3 passengers and holdin strong
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        Man I love watching your videos. If I was a bazziillioonnaire, I would swap an S85B50 in every BMW.


        That....or an Evolve Supercharger Kit, haha.
        Lol, that's true! We all need that. But I was trying to keep it fair
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      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        I'm glad you guys all enjoyed the video Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        That M3 Needs the Evolve- R tune ! Click here to enlarge
        Trust me I told him! He actually now has the AA tune, along with the AA rear exhaust section. He's likely getting the AA Stage 2 S/C kit. He said he's replacing the Gintani x-pipe and H/F cats with AA when he does the S/C install too..



        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by longboarder Click here to enlarge
        Awesome vids. It would be good to see the runs with 1 passenger each. I would assume your M5 is quite a bit faster, all things equal, given that you were carrying 2 additional passengers.

        Is the M3 stock or modded? I would assume some mods to be able to trap @ 115.
        Thanks! We were just playing around during the day runs.. We really wanted to get good vids of his exhaust setup. I ran him driver/driver OTW out to the track a couple days later and pulled hard top end. I also trapped 120 with a bad throttle actuator the same night he did 115.


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Lol, that's true! We all need that. But I was trying to keep it fair
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        A 150 shot on the V10 might make it fair..

        I'm looking forward to the feedback on this guys wet system install. It's almost ready. Who knows, I might have to dope up the beast Click here to enlarge

        BTW Evolve is doing the tuning for this M6

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      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        a 150 shot on the V10..that would be fun...
      1. Sonny's Avatar
        Sonny -
        Did the M3 have the AA tune when it trapped 115 mph?

        150 shot on your beast would be amazing.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sonny Click here to enlarge
        Did the M3 have the AA tune when it trapped 115 mph?

        150 shot on your beast would be amazing.
        No tune at the time.. Just the mods listed in the video.

        I can only imagine how hard it would pull on some spray.. 4th and 5th gears would be ridiculous! Click here to enlarge I'm very tempted to do it pending feedback on the experience from the guy currently finishing the setup on his.

        -TZ
      1. Sonny's Avatar
        Sonny -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        No tune at the time.. Just the mods listed in the video.

        I can only imagine how hard it would pull on some spray.. 4th and 5th gears would be ridiculous! Click here to enlarge I'm very tempted to do it pending feedback on the experience from the guy currently finishing the setup on his.

        -TZ
        Wow, that's a really good trap for the stock M3.

        RE: your car on spray, I'm very interested to see if you end up doing something like that. What about starting off with like a 75 shot or something? Is the necessary tuning available for NOS on the M5?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        I'm looking forward to the feedback on this guys wet system install. It's almost ready. Who knows, I might have to dope up the beast
        You should do a sweet direct port setup like the car that ran 10's..
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sonny Click here to enlarge
        Wow, that's a really good trap for the stock M3.

        RE: your car on spray, I'm very interested to see if you end up doing something like that. What about starting off with like a 75 shot or something? Is the necessary tuning available for NOS on the M5?
        This video is pretty much exactly what happened when I had my M3 bone stock versus a modded M5 with two passengers. I got banned from M5board because nobody believed me even though the owner of the M5 started the thread asking WTF he lost to a stock M3 from a stop.

        Since then people have become a bit more educated but Gustav had M5 owners thinking they were invincible.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I don't know what took me so long to get to this, I'll put it on the front page.
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This video is pretty much exactly what happened when I had my M3 bone stock versus a modded M5 with two passengers. I got banned from M5board because nobody believed me even though the owner of the M5 started the thread asking WTF he lost to a stock M3 from a stop.

        Since then people have become a bit more educated but Gustav had M5 owners thinking they were invincible.
        wait..so my M5 isnt the fastest car ever in the universe ever???? no way..lol..jk
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        wait..so my M5 isnt the fastest car ever in the universe ever???? no way..lol..jk
        Check out how pissed off M5 owners got: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e90...0-tired-2.html
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Check out how pissed off M5 owners got: http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e90...0-tired-2.html
        lol..so funny how that turned into a 10 page post lol..stock for stock though the M5 is faster right? I would assume so..I ran a few M3's in my 335i and pulled on them and my M5 feels(keyword is feels) significantly faster than my 335, but my M5 isnt stock Click here to enlarge..however, I know the M3 is a drivers car..put a bad driver in a M3 and it isnt that impressive, put a good driver in a M3 who knows shift points and launch points and all that, and that M3 is gonna move..

        plus who cares whos car is faster..there is always someone out there who is gonna be faster..I didnt buy my M5 to be the fastest car on the street and brag how its faster than M3's..I bought it because I love the look of the M5, I love the sound of the V10..and when I punch it, its feels fast to me, and that really all that matters..enjoy your cars and dont get caught up in the BS..
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        either way both are great cars..I love the M3, I really do..I just like big 4 door sedans that can move Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        lol..so funny how that turned into a 10 page post lol..
        That's with pages of posts deleted.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        stock for stock though the M5 is faster right? I would assume so..
        Top end yes but in the 1/4 mile it's basically a wash.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        plus who cares whos car is faster..there is always someone out there who is gonna be faster..I didnt buy my M5 to be the fastest car on the street and brag how its faster than M3's..
        Oh I know it was just even the thought of the mighty M5 losing to the lowly M3 gave everyone a heart attack.