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    • Cobb Tuning Stage 2 E82 135i takes on an Evolve tuned Stage I E60 M5

      Just to preface both Evolve and Cobb are vendors on BimmerBoost for good reasons, they have great tunes powering some very fast BMW's. What you see here in this video are two very different tuned vehicles. The E60 M5 with a Stage I Evolve tune and Eisenmann race exhaust for its naturally aspirated 5.0 liter V10 is the camera car. The E82 135i has the Cobb Stage II aggressive with downpipes and a twin turbo N54 3.0 liter I6.

      The M5 runs away up top which is really no surprise. The S85 V10 really shines on the highway where it is at its best. Video is below.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: Cobb Tuning Stage 2 E82 135i takes on an Evolve tuned Stage I E60 M5 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        Wish i could come play. Cobb stage 2 is worthless in my opinion. You guys need to be careful which N54 powered cars your picking on, you just might become very familiar with which tailights are LCI vs non LCI lol.
        I have a lot of repsect for the N54..like I said, I had one FBO cobb tuned and it was fast...but unless youre running upgraded turbos, meth or E85 you arent touching a modded M5..dont mean to sound like a M5 fanboy, its just that Ive had both cars now..and the M5 is on another level
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        I have a lot of repsect for the N54..like I said, I had one FBO cobb tuned and it was fast...but unless youre running upgraded turbos, meth or E85 you arent touching a modded M5..dont mean to sound like a M5 fanboy, its just that Ive had both cars now..and the M5 is on another level
        What does a tuned E60 M5 trap? I know the car is no slouch, thats for sure. BTW, im Cobb, FBO, Meth, & E85. Like i said, i would LOVE to come play.
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        What does a tuned E60 M5 trap? I know the car is no slouch, thats for sure. BTW, im Cobb, FBO, Meth, & E85. Like i said, i would LOVE to come play.
        im not sure about that..shoudnt be to hard to find out though..maybe at the drag strip its a different story, the N54 can maybe hang..the M5 is a heavy beast and off the line the N54 might have the advantage (might)...but catch one on the highway, and I think the M5 pulls away with ease..

        if youre ever in south florida hit me up, Im down for a few friendly runs
      1. fast4door's Avatar
        fast4door -
        well atleast my avatar is changed now..once the car is clean ill post some pics
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        What does a tuned E60 M5 trap? I know the car is no slouch, thats for sure. BTW, im Cobb, FBO, Meth, & E85. Like i said, i would LOVE to come play.
        Good tune, exhaust, headers, race gas, scoops, and it will do 122.
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Good tune, exhaust, headers, race gas, scoops, and it will do 122.
        I would be thrilled if i could keep up with that, not sure. Hoping to hit a test & tune tonight, praying for 120's.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
        I would be thrilled if i could keep up with that, not sure. Hoping to hit a test & tune tonight, praying for 120's.
        You won't hit 122 in Florida in the summer. You are going to need some good air.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Good tune, exhaust, headers, race gas, scoops, and it will do 122.
        I trapped 120.19 on the Evolve tune w/ RPi intake on 93 octane. That night I realized I had a faulting throttle actuator that wouldn't let me launch the car, hence my horrid 60' time. It would just roll off the line from 600RPM instead of the 3500RPM it does when healthy. But I did pull a CLK63 Black Series 3x on the highway on the way home that nightClick here to enlarge

        -TZ

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TZ04XJR Click here to enlarge
        I trapped 120.19 on the Evolve tune w/ RPi intake on 93 octane. That night I realized I had a faulting throttle actuator that wouldn't let me launch the car, hence my horrid 60' time. It would just roll off the line from 600RPM instead of the 3500RPM it does when healthy. But I did pull a CLK63 Black Series 3x on the highway on the way home that nightClick here to enlarge

        -TZ

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        Not bad at all.

        I think headers and race gas will get you a couple more, easy.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Not bad at all.

        I think headers and race gas will get you a couple more, easy.
        I agree 1000%
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You won't hit 122 in Florida in the summer. You are going to need some good air.
        Hence why im praying for only 120 lolClick here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
        Needs to be rerun with an Automatic 135i with FBO and E85.... It wouldn't have looked as good for the M5. 135s have trapped over 120 as well...
        It would need to be a 135i with basically everything to have a chance. And I still would take the top end of the S85 with bolt on's.
      1. TZ04XJR's Avatar
        TZ04XJR -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It would need to be a 135i with basically everything to have a chance. And I still would take the top end of the S85 with bolt on's.
        It would be a great match-up.. But if the FBO 135i better have minimum a car and a half lead on the M before the SMG gets into 4th gear. IMO my car doesn't get fast until I get into 4th around 100 mph. A lot of people don't realize how freakish the acceleration of a modded M5 is over 100 MPH. I'm always happy to educate in person Click here to enlarge

        -TZ
      1. khyber's Avatar
        khyber -
        For the launch the 135i needs a LSD IMO but we are running again in a week or two & from a dig should be interesting. I have noticed that N55's are stronger than the N54 from what I have seen, less prone to heat soak.

        I have ran four different variations of 135i's and they all get slower and slower on every run, heat soak is there kryptonite and summer temps don't help them at all.

        I'll tell him to keep his windows up on the next runs....lol.


        I ran 135i N55 meth JB4+ (map 7), etc. pulled on it @ 4th. I'll track that guy down and see if I can get a video up.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by khyber Click here to enlarge
        For the launch the 135i needs a LSD IMO
        If you have traction an open diff doesn't really have a disadvantage from a stop. Many good 60 foots have been set without an LSD by the N54 cars.
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        M5 pulled it pretty hard, even down low. Impressed to say the lease from both cars though lots of room left on each of them
      1. khyber's Avatar
        khyber -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
        M5 pulled it pretty hard, even down low. Impressed to say the lease from both cars though lots of room left on each of them
        yeah they do. Only problem is E60 M5 mods to get a marginal amount of whp increase get super pricey Click here to enlarge lol

        135i guys have it easy.... Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by khyber Click here to enlarge
        135i guys have it easy....
        And less satisfying.
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by khyber Click here to enlarge
        yeah they do. Only problem is E60 M5 mods to get a marginal amount of whp increase get super pricey Click here to enlarge lol

        135i guys have it easy.... Click here to enlarge

        Sort of...

        De-cat it
        Modify the induction system
        tune it
        = beast

        N54 requires significant boost increase and cooling mods "just" to put up a consistent fight, and it's 1000lbs lighter give or take...
      1. khyber's Avatar
        khyber -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fast4door Click here to enlarge
        lol I jsut got it like 2 weeks ago!!..plus im still trying to decide which one to get..i think im going with the evolve r tune

        good choice. I'm thinking about upgrading to Evolve Alpha-N.