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    • ESS-VT2 625 supercharged E92 manual M3 takes on the new F10 M5 in a roll on race

      Supercharged M3's are definitely quick cars as seen here. The new F10 M5 is no slouch itself but in stock form it is about a 122 mile per hour trap car whereas the M3 should be in the mid to upper 120's. We do not have dynojet numers for the new F10 M5 yet but we expect it to be somewhere in the 480 wheel horsepower range. This ESS kit should be in the mid to upper 500's depending on pulley the owner ran. Impressive result for the M3 considering it is a 6-speed manual. Less weight plus more power makes for a beatdown.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: ESS M3 VT2-625 vs F10 M5 started by ERM324 View original post
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      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        good point, we'll figure something out




        Im not saying its faster, but with every aspect taken into account, its not slower. and if it is, its NOWHERE near what people claim it to be. outlandish claims of 10 mph advantage once FI, and 3-5 N/A.. maybe 1 mph on an avg driver, and nill on a good one

        Thanks for the reply man. I don't do much (any) drag racing, but go all the time with friends... Not too many people in my crowd are into M series, so it's more american power. Point is, you guys make me jealous with the ability to even race each other (DCT vs Manual in this case). I liked SMG - but had some issues with it at the end. DCT on the other hand feels solid, and as you said is consistent as you can get. As far as shift speed? Seems pretty fast - but not sure if I buy the "no loss in tractive force". I guess this could be proved on a dyno, right? Why hasn't anyone done this?

        Must admit, I sometimes miss banging my own gears. Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        Lots of rain on and off thru Sunday... Thats the first sunny and dry day. Figured we could do some clean runs with no issues weather/dampness wise.
        Sunday definatly wont work, some of us ae going Karting on NJMP

        possibly Saturday then? how far are you willing to meet me?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        Thanks for the reply man. I don't do much (any) drag racing, but go all the time with friends... Not too many people in my crowd are into M series, so it's more american power. Point is, you guys make me jealous with the ability to even race each other (DCT vs Manual in this case). I liked SMG - but had some issues with it at the end. DCT on the other hand feels solid, and as you said is consistent as you can get. As far as shift speed? Seems pretty fast - but not sure if I buy the "no loss in tractive force". I guess this could be proved on a dyno, right? Why hasn't anyone done this?

        Must admit, I sometimes miss banging my own gears. Click here to enlarge
        eh, There should be a slight advantage when FI, if there is an advantage, its going to be there, but nothing worth arguing over as "OMG, it will rape any non DCT car" (not that anyone has said it like that)
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        This further proves what bull$#@! that first video was of the F10 M5 against the tuned Z06 ...
        Sure does, that video always seemed suspect.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Sunday definatly wont work, some of us ae going Karting on NJMP

        possibly Saturday then? how far are you willing to meet me?



        eh, There should be a slight advantage when FI, if there is an advantage, its going to be there, but nothing worth arguing over as "OMG, it will rape any non DCT car" (not that anyone has said it like that)

        NJMP is 2hrs south... How about the Burlington area? Honestly I have at least 3 spots we could with no issues near my home. Should be easy to get a run in those spots. We need some dry weather is all
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        NJMP is 2hrs south... How about the Burlington area? Honestly I have at least 3 spots we could with no issues near my home. Should be easy to get a run in those spots. We need some dry weather is all
        I didnt mean to come all the way to NJMP Click here to enlarge
        yea, i used to live in burlington, thats perfect. parts of mexico are near there

        @akh23456 you free?
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        @ultimateendz @Blaizon @nismo370 @Mr.Squeeze If you guys are around lets get it going.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        @ultimateendz @Blaizon @nismo370 @Mr.Squeeze If you guys are around lets get it going.

        lol, none of those guys except Blaizon have a running car!
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        They can spectate LOL... The V is still together and running for now. I would enjoy getting a 4 car run with Blaizon, Ultimate, you and of me... Its a tight run with all of those cars the car in last would be far from slow.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        have you run BLZ? I would think you and he would be the fastest then V, then me. going by what "should" happen but in reality, i see the V, then you or me, then BLZ
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        I'm actually on a plane right now headed to Atlanta then to Newark...if u guys do it today there's no way I'm gonna make it
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        have you run BLZ? I would think you and he would be the fastest then V, then me. going by what "should" happen but in reality, i see the V, then you or me, then BLZ
        When you say V do you mean me?...if so blaizon and I had a couple pulls already when i ran nismo
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        The CTSV will be in front without a doubt
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        When you say V do you mean me?...if so blaizon and I had a couple pulls already when i ran nismo
        yea, meant you. going by stats, the JB car should pull us all easy by the mod list, but i dont go by mod lists, and that puts you in front of all, probably the vette, then me, then blz
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        @Pea=Hitman lol
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blaizon Click here to enlarge
        Sunday looks pretty good for me. Not sure if I'll be able to run though, I'm getting excessive wastegate rattle. May be time for some upgraded twins Click here to enlarge

        Yes please get them so we can put them in already.
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        @ultimateendz @Blaizon @nismo370 @Mr.Squeeze If you guys are around lets get it going.
        Sunday is not to good for me I have a BBQ to go to.

        Let me know what time though cause you know me if I can squeeze in I will.
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        lol, none of those guys except Blaizon have a running car!

        LOL good one soon my friend soon.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        have you run BLZ? I would think you and he would be the fastest then V, then me. going by what "should" happen but in reality, i see the V, then you or me, then BLZ
        I cant call it... I am faster than Blaizon from what we have seen in a couple of pulls. I was close to Ultimate but those were not actual runs I was chasing when he would hit the gas. I was a gear higher than needed in all those circumstances. In any case weather has cleared so tonight could be a go. Though holiday traffic brings out the boys in blue. Lemme know

        @Blaizon if you're around bro holla
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        just finished washing the car. im sure this weekend traffic is gonna be crazy. but if your willing to travel to burlington, im in. just needs a heads up to inform the mrs
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        Hurry up and get the SC Steve!!