• Vishnu Tuning E92 335i with FFTEC N54 single turbo hardware + raised boost finally runs a 10 second 1/4 mile pass, underwhelming?

      Vishnu Tuning finally managed to eek out a 10 second pass in their single turbo E92 335i that they were once touting would be in the 9's. After multiple unsuccessful attempts (with driver errors) from Vishnu owner Shiv Pathak he was able to get a high 10 second slip by raising the boost according to his data log and shifting cleanly. Details are scarce as Vishnu did not provide information on the youtube video upload and there also is no exterior view to show the slip actually correlates to the run shown in the video.

      We will give the benefit of the doubt here but with all secrecy and the multiple attempts to get to this point the performance is simply underwhelming for the time and money investment. The car is said to have run 10.8@131. It recently was dyno'd at 627 wheel horsepower by Insideline so these horses are not translating well to the ground. This single turbo offers considerable lag and the top end pull for the sacrifice simply is not there especially compared to existing solutions such as the Rob Beck twin turbo upgrade which offers far greater spool and performance only a few miles per off through the traps but with far greater driveability.

      The previous record was 11.10@127.21 with 19 psi of boost on the RB turbos. These turbos are a much more affordable option that also currently is available. Vishnu claims 23.5 psi of boost for this 10.8@131 mph run. Is it worth the minor top end benefit for the estimated $8500+ plus install? We do not think so and considering the way Vishnu hyped this the results are very underwhelming. The low end torque sacrifice is not being justified with a large top end gain.

      We wish Vishnu luck in the future but for now this is still an experiment and work in progress that is tough to buy both figuratively and literally. There are more affordable options that work better for daily driven N54 vehicles that offer 97% of the performance in practice (as in not just a dyno queen) with less compromises. Not to mention for users to repeat what Vishnu has done here with their own single turbo it will likely be far more difficult as they will not have the option of risking their engine with higher boost and timing advances simply to try to eek out a tenth to squeeze past what already exists and get into the 10's. It may be a record, but it certainly is not impressive considering where the bar was already set with far less horsepower and much more affordable tuning and hardware options.







      This article was originally published in forum thread: Vishnu/FFTEC 10.822 1/4 mile RECORD! started by onesuperboi View original post
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      1. Velocity26's Avatar
        Velocity26 -
        And all of the uncontrolled secondary fueling has to go somewhere...
      1. Sean@FFTEC's Avatar
        Sean@FFTEC -
        NLS was used. As was 2-step. I didn't see any clouds of smoke in the video or in person.
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        Now that's an update worth posting not some of that incremental .001 improvements. Congrats to Shiv in being the 1st to bringing the 335i into the 10's, and it's a pretty solid run as well. I don't agree with the article up there. Most of us do have mods in our cars, so the cost of overall modifying will keep going up so you can't help that. But if somebody who doesn't have mods 10-13k price for a mod to make the car run 10's on slicks and 11's on the road is not that big of investment and well worth it. Again congratulations and job well done.
      1. bmwm3gt's Avatar
        bmwm3gt -
        Congratulations to Vishnu and FFTEC!
        Nice article Sticky. Click here to enlarge I can really feel the love lol.
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        awesome....wait till the auto's hit the 1/4 !!
        I can't wait to see what a liquefied auto transmission looks like!!
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        lol @ the thread rename. He finally ran 10s where other attempts (although with much less power and effort) only ran 11.0s. So he deserves a few hours or dare I say even a day of respect for that. Even if he does sound like a tool in his video. Click here to enlarge
      1. Velocity26's Avatar
        Velocity26 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sean@FFTEC Click here to enlarge
        NLS was used. As was 2-step. I didn't see any clouds of smoke in the video or in person.
        You are correct, we did not think that he used NLS because it was so evident when he used it in the past. I guess that he has refined his NLS programming, congrats.
      1. Sikh335's Avatar
        Sikh335 -
        Hey Sticky I'm sure I can set up a meeting with Shiv why not post or pm your Anaheim Hills address Joseph
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        Sikh335 -
        Terry why aren't you at Beemer fest !!!!
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Jason @ BMS is down there, or at least is supposed to be. Click here to enlarge I personally have other obligations and can't make it. But we've been sponsoring bimmerfest.com for years and hope the show is as great as always!
      1. GeorgiaTech335Coupe's Avatar
        GeorgiaTech335Coupe -
        What's the next fastest MT? 11.4 and it has RBs. That's a pretty big difference. We all know the ATs have a huge advantage at the strip. I've seen ATs cut 1.7s on RFTs. Just give credit where credit is due. If they only can run 11.0 or 10.9 when an AT gets up and running, then I'd say the bashing would be legit.
      1. Blaizon's Avatar
        Blaizon -
        Congrats to Vishnu/FFTEC, I'm happy to see you guys in the 10's.
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        That video looked pretty badass, dropping the clutch at such high rpm is sickening lol.
        spec stage 2(maybe 2+) clutch with lightweight flywheel. a clutch option that doesn't get much air time, possibly because of who actually engineered it for the n54 or because of spec's poor past rep.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sr20seb Click here to enlarge
        I can't wait to see what a liquefied auto transmission looks like!!
        LOL i agree. I actually take my statement back, his time is great, even with a 6mt (due to the drag radials). I can't imagine hooking much better with a auto, maybe .2 better or something....but it won't be drastic.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sr20seb Click here to enlarge
        Now that's an update worth posting not some of that incremental .001 improvements. Congrats to Shiv in being the 1st to bringing the 335i into the 10's, and it's a pretty solid run as well. I don't agree with the article up there. Most of us do have mods in our cars, so the cost of overall modifying will keep going up so you can't help that. But if somebody who doesn't have mods 10-13k price for a mod to make the car run 10's on slicks and 11's on the road is not that big of investment and well worth it. Again congratulations and job well done.
        I agree, how is it not worth the money? Look at all the money people dump into a e9X m3 to run slower.....C'mon Most people running this set up already have FBO, LSD, upgraded clutch, etc. so $8500 for a single turbo isn't bad. I'm not saying the kit is perfect, I believe there is improvements in tuning, controlling fuel, limiting the use of meth, etc., but if you look at the HPF kit and this kit, its not that overpriced IMO.
      1. Jimefam's Avatar
        Jimefam -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335Coupe Click here to enlarge
        What's the next fastest MT? 11.4 and it has RBs. That's a pretty big difference. We all know the ATs have a huge advantage at the strip. I've seen ATs cut 1.7s on RFTs. Just give credit where credit is due. If they only can run 11.0 or 10.9 when an AT gets up and running, then I'd say the bashing would be legit.
        How dare you bring logic into this!!
      1. scott_uw's Avatar
        scott_uw -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        I agree, how is it not worth the money? Look at all the money people dump into a e9X m3 to run slower.....
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        8.5k for that + tuning is not worth it imo. But then again I didn't come from an M3 background.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        It's only 8k for the first few people. After awhile I predict single kits will come down to more reasonable 4k pricing levels for the turbo+hardware and then the decision can be made on the merits/performance of each. Odd the first single turbo steptronic has gone off the radar though. Trans problems?
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by scott_uw Click here to enlarge
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        8.5k for that + tuning is not worth it imo. But then again I didn't come from an M3 background.
        e9x m3 supercharger kits are 11-15k depending on what level/hp you want. Not including tuning, install...etc.
      1. Sikh335's Avatar
        Sikh335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TerryBMS Click here to enlarge
        It's only 8k for the first few people. After awhile I predict single kits will come down to more reasonable 4k pricing levels for the turbo+hardware and then the decision can be made on the merits/performance of each. Odd the first single turbo steptronic has gone off the radar though. Trans problems?
        You certainly do find a lot of thigs odd. Which I find off. Nice sig Click here to enlarge