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    • Gintani Stage 2+ supercharged E92 M3 takes on a bolt on C6 Z06

      The C6 Z06 is a very fast car in stock form. It is lightweight with a big motor that also revs for a strong top end. A Stage 2+ Gintani supercharged M3 with meth injection will put out close to the 600 wheel horsepower range depending on the transmission making for a very strong top end car. The Z06 has a fast intake, tune, and longtube headers along with no cats. The M3 is making more power and has the quicker shifting transmission although the Z06 is lighter with more torque down low.

      In the first race the Z06 loses traction. The M3 is in the wrong gear for the second race going to show that even if one has a lot of power high in the rev range a mistake like this means game over. The third race is a clean run with the M3 pulling up top. Check out the video below.



      This article was originally published in forum thread: Modded Z06 VS Gintani STG 2 M3 started by LostMarine View original post
      Comments 115 Comments
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Z06 looks better.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        The z06 will definitely destroy the m3 at the track, specially the 2011+ with the zr1 suspension. The m3 just has no chance. Look at the Nurburgring times. I would probably pick the m3 though with a built motor and a stage 3 SC if I has the choice, as I think it's the better overall car (4 seats n more comfortable). With no stage 3 SC, then the z06 all the way.
        People said this about the GT-R and we just saw an M3 with bolt on's top one significantly around the road course.

        The Nurburgring is a power track, not finesse.

        The Z06 is lighter, sure, but the M3 is an incredibly good handling vehicle.
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        Dam that Z06 got smoked

        To me both car's are two of best looking cars in there class M3 for sports coupe Z06 for sports car.
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        honest opinion, but have you driven either, z06 or s/c m3?
        Nope. So I'll have to conclude from what others say about them. It will be easy to find and test drive a z06 but not a SC m3 Click here to enlarge. I'll have to get your honest opinion after you SC yours, and compare with a z06 if you have driven one.
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        People said this about the GT-R and we just saw an M3 with bolt on's top one significantly around the road course.

        The Nurburgring is a power track, not finesse.

        The Z06 is lighter, sure, but the M3 is an incredibly good handling vehicle.
        I can see that. I wish there were more comparisons.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        This video is bull$#@! and completely innacurate. The vette started in a higher gear in both the second and third races, and in the first race where it started in the right gear it spun. If the vette started in the right gear it would have destroyed the M3. There are videos of supercharged M3 DCT's struggling to fend off intake/tuned z06's, headers free up alot of power on these cars there is no way the M3 is walking the vette like it seems here. If anything I'd expect the M3 to be able to hang or even lose by a car or two or even more to an LS7 with this setup - not walk it this bad.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        This video is bull$#@! and completely innacurate. The vette started in a higher gear in both the second and third races, and in the first race where it started in the right gear it spun. If the vette started in the right gear it would have destroyed the M3. There are videos of supercharged M3 DCT's struggling to fend off intake/tuned z06's, headers free up alot of power on these cars there is no way the M3 is walking the vette like it seems here. If anything I'd expect the M3 to be able to hang or even lose by a car or two or even more to an LS7 with this setup - not walk it this bad.
        LOL, bs huh? Yet other videos of gintani supercharged stage 2 m3's racing z06's are similar?

        No bias in your post or anything...
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        Not the M3 owners fault the ZO6 started in wrong gear or whatever. He lost. Pretty simple
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        I'll take the zo6 with the m3 interior....Click here to enlarge
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        LOL, bs huh? Yet other videos of gintani supercharged stage 2 m3's racing z06's are similar?

        No bias in your post or anything...
        Not quite sure what this means? Bias in regards to what?

        Its a known fact that the M3 in this video is (if lucky) 130mph trap car, and a Z06 with those supporting mods is around a 135trap car. There is a huge difference between the two.

        Furthermore, can you not hear the Z06 in all the videos? That car should scream when going WOT, instead it puts along in a lower gear than optimal. Go watch the video of Drew with his Gintani Stage 2+ against a stock z06, he ONLY starts pulling high up after 100 when he hits 4th gear. What makes you think that a car that is probably a little slower than Drew's was able to pull on a headers/catless exhaust/intake/tuned z06 on the initial hit, and keep pulling harder than Drew did on a stock z06? Sticky your living in a facade if you think a stock-motor blown M3 is pulling hard on an LS7 with anything more than a tune and intake.

        I dont think my car could pull on an LS7 either with those mods - its not being "biased" but being realistic
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        i see what your saying, but why is this acceptable then?


        or this



        or, if by the DCT advantage theory, these 2 stock should have been neck and neck

        meaning with 150hp more for both, they should have again been much closer.

        its all relative, and an Any Given Sunday type of thing
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        First race the C6 Z06 clutch was slipping, its posted in the description and you can also hear it - thats another joke of a race.

        Sure its an "any given sunday" type of thing. and thats why these results should be taken with a huge grain of salt. But when you have people like Sticky who are saying with absolute conviction that the M3 fairly beat the Z06, the M3 is faster, and I'm biased [for what? for being the only realistic guy in this thread by saying to (as you would say) stop sipping the kool aid and wake up], its pretty funny. The outcome in the video isnt realistic in the slightest bit- I might as well go race a veryron with him 4 gears lower than me and post the video of me beating him and go home thinking my car is faster as well. Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        First race the C6 Z06 clutch was slipping, its posted in the description and you can also hear it - thats another joke of a race.
        yes, but you having a fast, if not actually the fastest s/c M, from that video, does it look like it would have been a close race, or a definitive victory for the Z, with a good clutch
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        yes, but you having a fast, if not actually the fastest s/c M, from that video, does it look like it would have been a close race, or a definitive victory for the Z, with a good clutch
        Realistically? Yeah. I remember when I had a slipping clutch on my 335 and I was FBO+meth against my buddy's 335xi with just a procede and he walked me. Slipping clutch is a huge issue - you can have all the power you want but you'll go nowhere if you cant put it to the ground.

        How the hell would a speed speed 625 kit be walking a Z06 like that, lets be serious lol...the 625 6-speed has its hands full with stock z06's and is only able to pull in 5th gear and up.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        yes, but you having a fast, if not actually the fastest s/c M, from that video, does it look like it would have been a close race, or a definitive victory for the Z, with a good clutch
        With the slipping tranny in your 335 I could have probably beat you with a 116 trap n/a M3 because you couldnt utilize your power (depending on how bad it was).....you see my point...
      1. Mr.Squeeze's Avatar
        Mr.Squeeze -
        ERM is right about the slipping clutch for that first video.When I had my supercharger on my 370 stock clutch would slip once it heated up and boy did it slow me down.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
        Not the M3 owners fault the ZO6 started in wrong gear or whatever. He lost. Pretty simple
        Its also pretty simple that when BOTH cars were in the wrong gear in this video that the Z killed the M3.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        Not quite sure what this means? Bias in regards to what?

        Its a known fact that the M3 in this video is (if lucky) 130mph trap car, and a Z06 with those supporting mods is around a 135trap car. There is a huge difference between the two.

        Furthermore, can you not hear the Z06 in all the videos? That car should scream when going WOT, instead it puts along in a lower gear than optimal. Go watch the video of Drew with his Gintani Stage 2+ against a stock z06, he ONLY starts pulling high up after 100 when he hits 4th gear. What makes you think that a car that is probably a little slower than Drew's was able to pull on a headers/catless exhaust/intake/tuned z06 on the initial hit, and keep pulling harder than Drew did on a stock z06? Sticky your living in a facade if you think a stock-motor blown M3 is pulling hard on an LS7 with anything more than a tune and intake.

        I dont think my car could pull on an LS7 either with those mods - its not being "biased" but being realistic
        We would need to see a dyno of this Z06 and additionally the M3 is stronger from a roll than from a stop as the Z06's weight and torque help with it's 1/4 mile time. The m3 once moving has gearing favor it up top as the Z06 starts to slow down with its longer gears for gas mileage. Surely you know this?

        I really don't think a guy gets in his Z06 to race on video only to purposely choose the wrong gear.

        The Z06 lost, what happened in the video happened, try to justify it however you want. Why don't you just run a Gintani Stage 2+ setup? Why hasn't any ESS car done that yet?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        the 625 6-speed has its hands full with stock z06's and is only able to pull in 5th gear and up.
        Well we have multiple videos showing a Gintani Stage 2+ pulling Z06's... weird?
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        hopefully this saturday I can run the Gintani Sc