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    • Stock 2012 DCT M3 with rear section takes on a bolt on Mustang 5.0 from a roll

      The Mustang 5.0 is being compared to the M3 pretty frequently although these are not cross shopped cars. Understandable as the M3 is the benchmark and has been since 2008. The Mustang is a great performance value as it has and should be. Well, this 2012 M3 is stock except for a rear section exhaust but it is a dual clutch. The Mustang has an off-road H-pipe (meaning no cats), intake, tune, and exhaust.

      From a 40 mph roll the Mustang is able to pull a couple cars. From a lower speed roll the M3 is able to hold a slight advantage. The cars are close enough the weight of the passenger affects the outcome as well as the starting speed. Starting in first gear favors the M3 significantly on the shift. It is surprising though the Mustang was not stronger with a tune, intake, and exhaust as the M3 is basically stock although if it was a manual the 5.0 would have easily had its way with it passenger or no passenger and regardless of the starting speed.

      With a full exhaust and tune we would expect the M3 to pull relatively easily. Hopefully we see a rematch when the M3 has equal mods, enjoy the videos.


      Camera man in M3:

      Camera man in Mustang:

      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2011 Mustang 5.0 6speed (bolt ons) vs. e92 M3 DCT (exhaust) started by oddjob2021 View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        ^lol, nice edit...put it this way, my car was parked in the gintani tent and one of the first questions I asked was what was the deal with drew's blown motor and your car thats been sitting collecting dust for a couple years..not my business to get involved I dont feel like starting $#@! on the internet
        So what is this scoop? I'm waiting. My motor was never blown as you seem to be insinuating, I built the motor after I was waiting for them to build trans. You don't seem to have any clue as to what you are talking about but that's ok.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You go do research and read the S65 section, they are making plenty of power with much more to come.

        Right, useless like the S54 is useless going well over 4 digits? That makes sense. You have no idea what you are saying when it comes to these motors. You made the right move sticking to what you can barely afford as is.

        Let me know when your 5.0 makes power. Right now you are racing naturally aspirated M3's in your beast lol.
        You are king fairyland, what have you been racing except your keyboard in the past 2 years? My car is 3 weeks old numbnuts. Settle down before you make tourself look silly again.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        You are king fairyland, what have you been racing except your keyboard in the past 2 years?
        Guess the answer is to get a Mustang 5.0 huh?

        Would it make you feel better if I told you my daily driver cost more than twice your car too? LOL.

        Keep pulling things out of your rear and hoping they stick, it's amusing the hell out of me.

        3 weeks old? Mine went to get parts right after I broke it in. Go ahead, let's see what you do with your beast on your "budget." I saw how absolutely awesome your 135i was with its monster traps. You sure pushed that thing far.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        So what is this scoop? I'm waiting. My motor was never blown as you seem to be insinuating, I build the motor when I built the trans. You don't seem to have any clue as to what you are talking about but that's ok.
        To be honest, from what I heard (and not mentioning anyone because I am in no mood to throw anyone under the bus) you arent taken seriously by anyone in that crowd and there is more truth as to why your car sat for the period of time it did than you made known on your forum. Once again I couldnt care less about you or your build so I'm not getting further involved, noone said your motor was blown.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        To be honest, from what I heard (and not mentioning anyone because I am in no mood to throw anyone under the bus) you arent taken seriously by anyone in that crowd and there is more truth as to why your car sat for the period of time it did than you made known on your forum. Once again I couldnt care less about you or your build so I'm not getting further involved, noone said your motor was blown.
        Ok, what is the reason the car sat? You know it was sitting at SSP and not Gintani right? So please tell me as I'm curious. You're welcome for the clutch upgrade options btw, you will probably looking into them sooner rather than later if you want to do anything serious on the strip.

        I'm not taken seriously huh? Oh, I suppose we just do business with IOU's and Monopoly money and when I say I want something done I'm just ignored. Weird that I'm the one guy who hasn't stabbed them in the back for a better deal so I'm the one who should not be taken seriously especially with people such as yourself all clamoring for the car to get done.

        You keep mentioning all these "blown" motors and lumping everyone in, glad you understand not everyone screws up their motor (Drew) and then begs for a handout.

        For someone that doesn't care why park by Gintani as you said and the first thing you did was ask about my car?

        If you are going to pull random BS out please back it up. Go ahead, show me, show everyone.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Let me clarify:
        1) I didnt park by gintani like a fag and run over trying to get "dirt," I couldnt give a flying $#@! about you or your car. Why did I ask about your build and Drews build? Because they had a gintani stage 2+ car there and at the time I was crossshopping the ESS kit and Gintani kit and wanted to know more about the company and the truth behind their projects because it seemed as if EVERYONE was badmouthing the company and you cant listen to what people say but you should find out first hand.
        2) They are cool guys and are fun to hangout with, but I would not want them working on my car or trust them with it based on $#@! ive seen/heard from MANY people (once again, not throwing anybody under the bus), some of the biggest fanboys (even bigger than you) badmouthing them.
        3) And yes, unfortunately you arent taken seriously to certain people and as childish as it sounds I really am not going to mention names and $#@! said because I could care less to get further involved. I know its easy to say I am talking out of my ass right now (and trust me I would do the same), but I dont care to post $#@! between you and the company you suck off daily on a public forum so just end it at this point.

        And thank you for the DCT upgrade
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You go do research and read the S65 section, they are making plenty of power with much more to come.

        Right, useless like the S54 is useless going well over 4 digits? That makes sense. You have no idea what you are saying when it comes to these motors. You made the right move sticking to what you can barely afford as is.

        Let me know when your 5.0 makes power. Right now you are racing naturally aspirated M3's in your beast lol.
        Sticky the 5.0 is a beast lol. If he puts twins on it he will see 700whp very easy all day long.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Your dd costs 3 times more then my 5.0? Good for you, let me know when you give your mom her car back. Mother $#@!er do you even have a job? This forum doesnt count. You talk about money like you made somethig of yourself. Always the same story, just wait, this car can, this car will. Well this car DIDNT. Outside of tour own small mind, you are laughed at in your iwn community, congrats for accomplishing something.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        ^I wonder what he would do if he met you in person LOL
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        1) I didnt park by gintani like a fag and run over trying to get "dirt," I couldnt give a flying $#@! about you or your car. Why did I ask about your build and Drews build? Because they had a gintani stage 2+ car there and at the time I was crossshopping the ESS kit and Gintani kit and wanted to know more about the company and the truth behind their projects because it seemed as if EVERYONE was badmouthing the company and you cant listen to what people say but you should find out first hand.
        Oh, so you are interested in what they are doing?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        2) They are cool guys and are fun to hangout with, but I would not want them working on my car or trust them with it based on $#@! ive seen/heard from MANY people (once again, not throwing anybody under the bus), some of the biggest fanboys (even bigger than you) badmouthing them.
        Oh, ok. You don't want them working on your car based on what people who haven't had any work done by them say. You don't even care about the results or where they are taking the platform you have huh?

        I'm a fanboy as well now? No, my car is at the best place to get what I want done. I'm not some mindless zombie buying into propaganda. Have you ever even been to the shop?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        3) And yes, unfortunately you arent taken seriously to certain people and as childish as it sounds I really am not going to mention names and $#@! said because I could care less to get further involved. I know its easy to say I am talking out of my ass right now (and trust me I would do the same), but I dont care to post $#@! between you and the company you suck off daily on a public forum so just end it at this point.
        I guess the sponsor list is what it is for this site because I'm not taken seriously. I guess it grows the way it does because it isn't taken seriously. Seems to me you are posting on my site, right? Am I posting on yours?

        You straight up just lied and mentioned a bunch of BS (ala Laloosh) in an attempt to discredit me baselessly instead of arguing the topic.

        You essentially said I wasn't honest about why my car was sitting and now dodged it when I asked you to back it up saying you don't want to get involved. Don't want to get involved? Don't bull$#@! about myself or my car. You are this desperate in an attempt to put me down? For what? Here is a scoop, you don't know what you are talking about so kindly apologize.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Your dd costs 3 times more then my 5.0? Good for you, let me know when you give your mom her car back. Mother $#@!er do you even have a job? This forum doesnt count. You talk about money like you made somethig of yourself. Always the same story, just wait, this car can, this car will. Well this car DIDNT. Outside of tour own small mind, you are laughed at in your iwn community, congrats for accomplishing something.
        My mom drives an SL though...

        This forum doesn't count, why? Because it makes more money than you do? Well then basically nothing counts as anyone who is anyone does. Are you mad I'm good at it? Does it make you angry to see me succeeding after you put it myself down for so long? You make me blush.

        Why are you angry? Just giving up on the topic and trying to attack me instead eh? Good job!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nismo370 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky the 5.0 is a beast lol. If he puts twins on it he will see 700whp very easy all day long.
        Oh but when an S65 sees over 700 whp it is weak in comparison? I get it, that makes sense.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        ^I wonder what he would do if he met you in person LOL
        Nothing, he never threatened me. He made some jokes that if taken the wrong way would end up with him on his back however in person sarcasm and humor is easier to judge.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Thanks for clariying that you are jobless living off your parents money. Trust me cery doubful you make more cash, however my priorities are focused on a house right now with kids in the near time future not blowing 100k on a slow m3. Dont worry though the build is coming.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        My mom drives an SL though...

        This forum doesn't count, why? Because it makes more money than you do? Well then basically nothing counts as anyone who is anyone does. Are you mad I'm good at it? Does it make you angry to see me succeeding after you put it myself down for so long? You make me blush.

        Why are you angry? Just giving up on the topic and trying to attack me instead eh? Good job!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Nothing, he never threatened me. He made some jokes that if taken the wrong way would end up with him on his back however in person sarcasm and humor is easier to judge.
        My back? I'm not laying down next to you no matter how kindly you ask.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Thanks for clariying that you are jobless living off your parents money. Trust me cery doubful you make more cash, however my priorities are focused on a house right now with kids in the near time future not blowing 100k on a slow m3. Dont worry though the build is coming.
        I'm jobless living off my parents money? Well hell with how accurate you have been so far this must also be the case. I pretty much just say hey give me $100k I want to build an M3 for fun. Then they give me a big pile of cash.

        Of course I don't make more cash than you. I just have multiple cars worth multiples more than your car and can afford to dump in more cash than your entire car is worth. So of course it follows logically I don't have more money than you.

        Do you at least own the house already or are you just looking for one? You can't build your car and pay for a house at the same time? That sucks man. But hey, we make the same amount and all. Anyway, I'm off to hang out with my parents and tell them about the advice some guy posting on my website from across the country gave me who simply resorts to making things up when he can't debate the topic. I'm sure it will impress them.

        Want me to ask them to give you a loan so you can start "the build" faster?

        The part that makes me laugh is that you actually think you are good at this.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Lol such an angry little boy flaunting money. grow up kid, accomplish something in life or with your car before you pretend to act like you actually mean something. This is the part where i stop reading your paragraph long insults and simply laugh at you. Make it worth my noght while im in the staging lanes and your at home blogging about potential of a car you havnt driven this decade.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        Drew's motor was fine I personally spoke to him and they made that video of the 625 vs the 535 while it was on the way there.....
        yes, PG is his own failure at everything in life, cant dispute that, his car has been down longer than anyone.
        Izzy, i believe, but drew, not a chance, that sucker went south
        but, yea, these things we can talk about elsewhere Click here to enlarge

        so..anything good @Laloosh?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Lol such an angry little boy flaunting money. grow up kid, accomplish something in life or with your car before you pretend to act like you actually mean something. This is the part where i stop reading your paragraph long insults and simply laugh at you. Make it worth my noght while im in the staging lanes and your at home blogging about potential of a car you havnt driven this decade.
        I don't need to flaunt money, it just seems to be a real sore spot for you. Does it blow your mind I can spend this much and not blink? Guess it does and you can't even seem to fathom someone being able to pay it. Guess people are just much more successful than you and earlier, eh? If I was you I'd be bitter too. You mention it when you get angry and then try to invent things to justify your own purchase or better yet lack of ability to be able to make the ones I do.

        You forget you are on a site about BMW Performance? What are we supposed to talk about exactly? Maybe what people are doing with BMW's? If you know anybody else taking the S65 to higher levels faster please tell me.

        Tell you what, make your 5.0 faster than my M3 was at the very least. You already have the cheaper platform, with easier mods, that is already making more power. Everything is in your favor. That should at least serve as somewhat of a handicap to our financial disparity which makes you so sad and angry Click here to enlarge
      1. nismo370's Avatar
        nismo370 -
        Sticky mod for mod he will destroy you so get over it. Boost for boost he will destroy you lol. Oh yeah and he will make 700whp on a stock block can your all mighty m3 do that um no.