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    • Stock 2012 DCT M3 with rear section takes on a bolt on Mustang 5.0 from a roll

      The Mustang 5.0 is being compared to the M3 pretty frequently although these are not cross shopped cars. Understandable as the M3 is the benchmark and has been since 2008. The Mustang is a great performance value as it has and should be. Well, this 2012 M3 is stock except for a rear section exhaust but it is a dual clutch. The Mustang has an off-road H-pipe (meaning no cats), intake, tune, and exhaust.

      From a 40 mph roll the Mustang is able to pull a couple cars. From a lower speed roll the M3 is able to hold a slight advantage. The cars are close enough the weight of the passenger affects the outcome as well as the starting speed. Starting in first gear favors the M3 significantly on the shift. It is surprising though the Mustang was not stronger with a tune, intake, and exhaust as the M3 is basically stock although if it was a manual the 5.0 would have easily had its way with it passenger or no passenger and regardless of the starting speed.

      With a full exhaust and tune we would expect the M3 to pull relatively easily. Hopefully we see a rematch when the M3 has equal mods, enjoy the videos.


      Camera man in M3:

      Camera man in Mustang:
      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2011 Mustang 5.0 6speed (bolt ons) vs. e92 M3 DCT (exhaust) started by oddjob2021 View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        umm...my car is already faster than a stock m3 stock for stock...this has been proven
        I said stock internal M3's not stock M3's.

        You didn't even edge out a basically stock DCT M3 even with a SUPERCHARGED 6.2 LITER V8.

        And we are all talking down on the M3? Seriously? The car deserves more respect.

        Whatever, hopefully I'll get a loan for Laloosh in the next few days and I can go grab my car.

        We'll race at some point, I will be bringing it to some East Coast tracks. Plus that CLK63 vs. M3 shootout Jim and I were talking about.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        what happened to the s65?....i dont see one in this vid....@Laloosh do you see one? @Sledgehammer do you?Click here to enlarge I DID however see a forged LSA in my post
        There are plenty of fast cars. You want to point to a fast caddy that isn't yours I just pointed to a faster BMW.

        Let's see what you do with yours.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I said stock internal M3's not stock M3's.

        You didn't even edge out a basically stock DCT M3 even with a SUPERCHARGED 6.2 LITER V8.

        And we are all talking down on the M3? Seriously? The car deserves more respect.

        Whatever, hopefully I'll get a loan for Laloosh in the next few days and I can go grab my car.

        We'll race at some point, I will be bringing it to some East Coast tracks. Plus that CLK63 vs. M3 shootout Jim and I were talking about.

        lol...do you read????....steve treed me....look at the slips sticky....12.1 vs his 12.5...if that race was longer i promise that gap would have gotten MUCH wider
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There are plenty of fast cars. You want to point to a fast caddy that isn't yours I just pointed to a faster BMW.

        Let's see what you do with yours.

        my point is im pointing to the SAME car....your not
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        And that bmw already got walked by the coyote and ls engines....your point? A car from 199x that looks and drives liek $#@!, good job.
        The Mustang is a car from 2012 that looks and drive like $#@! and is about as advanced as one from 199X.

        How did the BMW get walked by the Coyote and LS engines?

        Ok, here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...85-V10-monster

        How far do you want to take it? Is anything Coyote powered running 6's? Nope. And I would take the S85 over your Coyote any day of the weak. It would take a fat dump on it.

        That just goes to show you the potential you can't seem to understand.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        my point is im pointing to the SAME car....your not
        You pointed to a car that wasn't your own.

        Regardless, I readily admit the LSX motors have more potential than the S65. Still, if it's so much easier your caddy should be able to destroy my BMW since everything is in your favor right?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        lol...do you read????....steve treed me....look at the slips sticky....12.1 vs his 12.5...if that race was longer i promise that gap would have gotten MUCH wider
        I think I was referring to when you first went to the track and ran mid 12's, didn't you?
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You pointed to a car that wasn't your own.

        Regardless, I readily admit the LSX motors have more potential than the S65. Still, if it's so much easier your caddy should be able to destroy my BMW since everything is in your favor right?
        i pointed to the same model car AND engine....that wasnt an LSX...that was a forged LSA....there is a BIG difference

        and yes you are correct....I will be able to make much more power than the S65 because my platform has more skin in the game with old tech and put together by bob and billy from west bumble$#@!....
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I think I was referring to when you first went to the track and ran mid 12's, didn't you?

        yea....remember the whole "o crap....i didnt know my car has DS mode"?....went back and those numbers INSTANTLY dropped...that was all driver mod
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        i pointed to the same model car AND engine....that wasnt an LSX...that was a forged LSA....there is a BIG difference
        I was pointing out there are plenty of fast BMW's if they get enough development. If we saw everyone turbo'ing the S85 like we see LS motors what do you think would happen? That motor would be doing exactly (if not better) than what the TT Gallardo's are doing and I don't see you guys talking down on those.

        And the S65 is just an S85 without two cylinders. So doesn't seems pretty damn strong to me, why you can't see it I have no clue.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        and yes you are correct....I will be able to make much more power than the S65 because my platform has more skin in the game with old tech and put together by bob and billy from west bumble$#@!....
        Well good luck dude. I have the smaller engine with less power potential. Go ahead and show me what's up.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        yea....remember the whole "o crap....i didnt know my car has DS mode"?....went back and those numbers INSTANTLY dropped...that was all driver mod
        So you are barely edging out stock DCT M3's with your supercharged 6.2 V8? And the M3 can't compete and is a bad platform? And I'm the one with bias, right.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        So you are barely edging out stock DCT M3's with your supercharged 6.2 V8? And the M3 can't compete and is a bad platform? And I'm the one with bias, right.

        barely edging out?...im not sure im seeing what you are...so what should my 4300lb car be ET'ing then?

        ring time

        cts-v: 7:59
        e92 m3: 8:05

        isnt that ALOT?
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The Mustang is a car that looks and drive like $#@! from 2012 and is as advanced as one from 199X.

        How did the BMW get walked by the Coyote and LS engines?

        Ok, here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...85-V10-monster

        How far do you want to take it? Is anything Coyote powered running 6's? Nope. And I would take the S85 over your Coyote any day of the weak. It would take a fat dump on it.

        That just goes to show you the potential you can't seem to understand.

        Actually i believe there is...google mmr mustang lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        barely edging out?...im not sure im seeing what you are...so what should my 4300lb car be ET'ing then?

        ring time

        cts-v: 7:59
        e92 m3: 8:05

        isnt that ALOT?
        No, not really. The E46 has done a 7:50 with far less power on a track where power rules, so?

        A supercharged M3 did 7:20's I believe.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Actually i believe there is...google mmr mustang lol
        Ok I'll check it out sometime but so the S65 is still weak and doesn't have the same potential? Haha, ok.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ok I'll check it out sometime but so the S65 is still weak and doesn't have the same potential? Haha, ok.
        Glad you finally see it. Also glad you are laughing and taking it like a good sport.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Glad you finally see it. Also glad you are laughing and taking it like a good sport.
        Taking what? Your poor knowledge level on just about everything you have commented on?

        Still don't see any explanation for why in theory the M3's motor can't make big power. Especially when the motor it is based on has proven to produce more power than anything the new 5.0 motor has done to this point.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Taking what? Your poor knowledge level on just about everything you have commented on?

        Still don't see any explanation for why in theory the M3's motor can't make big power. Especially when the motor it is based on has proven to produce more power than anything the new 5.0 motor has done to this point.
        Keep rubbing that lamp, eventually something will puff out.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        when do you go back? I wanna see how my car with a tune/primary cat delete does against a tune only 6mt Gt..
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Tomorrow is my last night. Why not make it mod for mod next week?