• Stock 2012 DCT M3 with rear section takes on a bolt on Mustang 5.0 from a roll

      The Mustang 5.0 is being compared to the M3 pretty frequently although these are not cross shopped cars. Understandable as the M3 is the benchmark and has been since 2008. The Mustang is a great performance value as it has and should be. Well, this 2012 M3 is stock except for a rear section exhaust but it is a dual clutch. The Mustang has an off-road H-pipe (meaning no cats), intake, tune, and exhaust.

      From a 40 mph roll the Mustang is able to pull a couple cars. From a lower speed roll the M3 is able to hold a slight advantage. The cars are close enough the weight of the passenger affects the outcome as well as the starting speed. Starting in first gear favors the M3 significantly on the shift. It is surprising though the Mustang was not stronger with a tune, intake, and exhaust as the M3 is basically stock although if it was a manual the 5.0 would have easily had its way with it passenger or no passenger and regardless of the starting speed.

      With a full exhaust and tune we would expect the M3 to pull relatively easily. Hopefully we see a rematch when the M3 has equal mods, enjoy the videos.


      Camera man in M3:

      Camera man in Mustang:
      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2011 Mustang 5.0 6speed (bolt ons) vs. e92 M3 DCT (exhaust) started by oddjob2021 View original post
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      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        In NA form it's obvious the Mustang 5.0 has more potential. The engine is not pushed nearly as hard from the factory.
        Actually in any form Click here to enlarge. One just nailed 906 on 91 octane stock motor. Others that are built are over 1000whp
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Actually in any form Click here to enlarge. One just nailed 906 on 91 octane stock motor. Others that are built are over 1000whp
        what was the mph, and define stock motor if you can.. i know you hangout with jdm tunerish people that think as long as oem oil is used, its still "stock" motor Click here to enlarge
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        What are you talking about. I defended stock motor language as bolt ons. As for the 906whp, bone stock motor with turbos and bolt ons. Stock rods stock pistons stock heads ect ect. Will it last? No probably not.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        What are you talking about. I defended stock motor language as bolt ons. As for the 906whp, bone stock motor with turbos and bolt ons. Stock rods stock pistons stock heads ect ect. Will it last? No probably not.
        ah, ok. i know you were a defender, but sometimes people change, so i had to ask. Thats still sick it can do that. so whats the major selling difference between a GT and snake then?
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Compression ratio. That 5.0 wont last, btw 1047 is the latest number with race gas. However if you build the bottom end the. The 5.0 heads are said to actually flow better.
      1. rmat16's Avatar
        rmat16 -
        GT500's have had a supercharged 5.4 with forged internals for quite some time. No variable valve control (pretty sure), but beasts in their own regard. Received a lighter block and some other upgrades for 2011, and the 2013's are getting a new blown 5.8 with 650hp. Can't even imagine one of those after a pulley and some bolt-ons.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Actually in any form Click here to enlarge. One just nailed 906 on 91 octane stock motor. Others that are built are over 1000whp
        With forced induction I will take the S65 with its higher redline and better heads. The problem is the lack of space for a big fat single turbo.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Ford raping it.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        With forced induction I will take the S65 with its higher redline and better heads. The problem is the lack of space for a big fat single turbo.
        You realize people rev these out to 7800 right? I will take the 1k plus whp one lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        You realize people rev these out to 7800 right? I will take the 1k plus whp one lol
        7800 isn't 8400 that can go to 9k...
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        7800 isn't 8400 that can go to 9k...
        Sorry didn't realize redline wins races, last I check it's horsepower and tq. Let be real the s65 isn't touching the power levels of the coyote anytime soon if ever. The engines been out 2 years and already doubled the best know s65 output not the mention ran 10s, 9s 8s, 7s which the s65 has yet to do.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Sorry didn't realize redline wins races
        Well a great torque curve that keeps on revving sure helps win races I think and makes for some very big HP.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Let be real the s65 isn't touching the power levels of the coyote anytime soon if ever.
        Not because the motor isn't capable, but because of the platform it is tied to.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        The engines been out 2 years and already doubled the best know s65 output not the mention ran 10s, 9s 8s, 7s which the s65 has yet to do.
        Of course. Tuning these Mustangs is as difficult as setting a microwave not to mention they have more space in the engine bay. You also have roughly 675 million tuners all tackling it at the same time with domestic support.

        BMW makes you work for it. They are like that fine $#@! you have to work at for months and months before she even shows you what's underneath.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        You are cluless about the tuning and I will just leave it at that. I understand you will always defend the m3 but man it has no shot to even come close. If someone is stupid enough to blow their house to make it happen, good for them however purly stupid and pointless.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        You are cluless about the tuning and I will just leave it at that. I understand you will always defend the m3 but man it has no shot to even come close. If someone is stupid enough to blow their house to make it happen, good for them however purly stupid and pointless.
        Why does it have no shot to even come close?

        I am clueless about tuning because I read just about everything on tuning? I'm clueless you say? And you are clued in I take it?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        If someone is stupid enough to blow their house to make it happen, good for them however purly stupid and pointless.
        Heh, seems you are talking about the kind of money that won't by you a decent home out here.

        It isn't stupid and pointless for people to tune their platform. It's stupid and pointless for everybody to do the same thing.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Funny thing is Grand-Am had to put a 8250 rpm-limit on the M3's because the Mustangs couldn't compete. Even though the Mustang has a full liter of displacement advantage.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Sticky in terms of drag racing or highway pulls the coyote has def got u beat....they are up there with the LS engines....cant say I'm gonna be seeing a 6 or 7 sec s65 in the next 3-4 years but I've seen 6sec camaros and 7 sec stangs....yes the s65 is a fine piece of work but I always believed in "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ford and GM have always and will always own the power segment when it comes to what block is making more power and what will win a straight line race
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        Sticky in terms of drag racing or highway pulls the coyote has def got u beat....they are up there with the LS engines....cant say I'm gonna be seeing a 6 or 7 sec s65 in the next 3-4 years but I've seen 6sec camaros and 7 sec stangs....yes the s65 is a fine piece of work but I always believed in "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ford and GM have always and will always own the power segment when it comes to what block is making more power and what will win a straight line race
        In sheer theoretical power potential, no it doesn't.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        In sheer theoretical power potential, no it doesn't.
        Its not theoretical....there are 1500whp stangs and camaros and fbodies and vettes and vipers etc...they exist they are on the road....they are real....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        Its not theoretical....there are 1500whp stangs and camaros and fbodies and vettes and vipers etc...they exist they are on the road....they are real....
        Theoretical means not currently in practice.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Let me give you some numbers:

        S65 + 7 psi = 600HP
        Coyote + 8.5 psi = 600HP