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    • Stock 2012 DCT M3 with rear section takes on a bolt on Mustang 5.0 from a roll

      The Mustang 5.0 is being compared to the M3 pretty frequently although these are not cross shopped cars. Understandable as the M3 is the benchmark and has been since 2008. The Mustang is a great performance value as it has and should be. Well, this 2012 M3 is stock except for a rear section exhaust but it is a dual clutch. The Mustang has an off-road H-pipe (meaning no cats), intake, tune, and exhaust.

      From a 40 mph roll the Mustang is able to pull a couple cars. From a lower speed roll the M3 is able to hold a slight advantage. The cars are close enough the weight of the passenger affects the outcome as well as the starting speed. Starting in first gear favors the M3 significantly on the shift. It is surprising though the Mustang was not stronger with a tune, intake, and exhaust as the M3 is basically stock although if it was a manual the 5.0 would have easily had its way with it passenger or no passenger and regardless of the starting speed.

      With a full exhaust and tune we would expect the M3 to pull relatively easily. Hopefully we see a rematch when the M3 has equal mods, enjoy the videos.


      Camera man in M3:

      Camera man in Mustang:

      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2011 Mustang 5.0 6speed (bolt ons) vs. e92 M3 DCT (exhaust) started by oddjob2021 View original post
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      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hworang00 Click here to enlarge
        Haha, yeah...money pits, but fun factories! Click here to enlarge Put money in and get smiles out

        KD Innovations told me when the whipple goes on im gonna need to invest in a new set of boxers
      1. hworang00's Avatar
        hworang00 -
        Yeah I hear those whipples are sick man...great investment! Click here to enlarge
      1. alq80's Avatar
        alq80 -
        sweet! love the sound of the mustang granny shifting! Kinda thinking hard about modding my car now. I've held off for quite a while now.. it's almost been a year :S
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        eurowise in NC is good, id say go there for the small things you want done.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sr20seb Click here to enlarge
        Nice kill. Kill that soulless automatic to hell!!
        Die.
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        yeah sorry about the misinformation. he sent me the vids the other night and i thought i'd share, i guess i played telephone and just inferred that because of the different pull characteristic it was a cam switch when in fact it was the speed and tranny that made the difference. i also cannot wait for the rematch, i can join if you all are interested Click here to enlarge
      1. rmat16's Avatar
        rmat16 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        yeah sorry about the misinformation. he sent me the vids the other night and i thought i'd share, i guess i played telephone and just inferred that because of the different pull characteristic it was a cam switch when in fact it was the speed and tranny that made the difference. i also cannot wait for the rematch, i can join if you all are interested Click here to enlarge
        Play nice now, Mr. ASR upgraded turbos.. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        yeah sorry about the misinformation. he sent me the vids the other night and i thought i'd share, i guess i played telephone and just inferred that because of the different pull characteristic it was a cam switch when in fact it was the speed and tranny that made the difference. i also cannot wait for the rematch, i can join if you all are interested Click here to enlarge
        No biggie, it was cleared up.
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        rmat16, do you know if the E92 M3 owner changed up any of the mods compared to the ones listed in that link to M3Post?

        As far as I know, Eisenmann does not make a XPipe. They only produce connecting pipes that connect to the OE XPipe. Two very different things. So if he hasn't changed anything since that posted mod list, then he definitely has two sets of cats.

        Please correct me if I'm wrong.

        Nice 5.0! I hear those things are a blast to drive Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        As far as I know, Eisenmann does not make a XPipe. They only produce connecting pipes that connect to the OE XPipe. Two very different things. So if he hasn't changed anything since that posted mod list, then he definitely has two sets of cats.
        We need to get clarification from the owner. Someone have him post.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Outside of drew who ran at a fantasy land track to achieve his trap speed what do full bolted na m3s even trap?
      1. BrenM3's Avatar
        BrenM3 -
        ^^ Some of us in reality are more along the lines of 116-117 in normal conditions catted/tuned/etc.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
        Outside of drew who ran at a fantasy land track to achieve his trap speed what do full bolted na m3s even trap?
        115-117 is what you can expect,

        i would assume ill be in the 117 range if FBO, but im not doing pulley or airbox, probably gonna get a tune, since the loader would go hand in hand with the s/c..
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        117 can be done.
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Well my ofroad x and intake wont be here in time for the track. Looks like it will be tune only next time out
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Im pretty booked up so give me a good heads up if you can.

        whats a tune get you on that, 30 hp?
      1. Laloosh's Avatar
        Laloosh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Im pretty booked up so give me a good heads up if you can.

        whats a tune get you on that, 30 hp?
        Nah like 15-20 on the 93 race map, its not much
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        I think 116-117 is pretty realistic....heres a 116.5 or something I managed over summer when n/a:
      1. rmat16's Avatar
        rmat16 -
        I trapped 115 first time ever at the track in the 5.0 with all my current mods, but on my OEM 18" 235/50 All-Seasons. An oil spill prevented me from running again that evening, and I haven't since, but I know for a fact that's no where near the car's potential.

        Oddjob2021 was there that night as well.

        Need to find the time to back :/
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        In NA form it's obvious the Mustang 5.0 has more potential. The engine is not pushed nearly as hard from the factory.