• Gintani sets new E9X M3 S65 V8 horsepower record hitting 828 horsepower with a Stage III supercharger

      Things are progressing nicely on the M3 front with Gintani recently recording 828 horsepower at the crank in a manual E90 M3. The car has a low compression built motor (compression will not be revealed at this time) and hit 16.5 psi of boost from a Vortech YSI. The blower has more in it and could likely be overspun to the 22 psi range but for now 828 horsepower at 16.5 psi is very impressive and more than anyone has made up until today. Expect to see more out of these Stage III cars, like BimmerBoost's own project M3, in the next few weeks.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: New HP World Record Gintani e90 m3 stage 3 sc?? started by Yukohama View original post
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      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        it dynoed in the high 600whp range
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        it dynoed in the high 600whp range
        Why would you say that?

        They didn't list wheel hp because people wouldn't understand how dyno's differ.
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        Its a good number. Gives everyone a goal to shoot for Click here to enlarge
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Why would you say that?

        They didn't list wheel hp because people wouldn't understand how dyno's differ.
        Technically a 15% drivetrain loss with that number is around 710 whp. So if gintani dyno hit 680 or so, that makes sense.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Technically a 15% drivetrain loss with that number is around 710 whp. So if gintani dyno hit 680 or so, that makes sense.
        Irrelevant, he does not know what they hit at what corection. I do though...
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        [QUOTE=Sticky;252934]Why would you say that?They didn't list wheel hp because people wouldn't understand how dyno's differ.[]It was posted on Facebook from the owner of the car....didn't break 700whp, and this DYNO reads close to a dynojet according to them. 800+ hp is really exaggerating the power lol
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        looking good better than anything else i have seen in the market Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        It was posted on Facebook from the owner of the car....didn't break 700whp, and this DYNO reads close to a dynojet according to them. 800+ hp is really exaggerating the power lol
        It isn't exagerrating the power at all, it is a crank reading.

        The dyno doesn't read anything like a dynojet. I think I would know considering I have dyno'd on it and a dynojet. Have you?

        Sounds like you are trying to downplay the results.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by akh23456 Click here to enlarge
        looking good better than anything else i have seen in the market Click here to enlarge
        Nothing else comes close and anything else that is being done with a built motor is using a teeny tiny baby blower... Click here to enlarge
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Sticky it says right on the goddamn picture on Facebook that the numbers ran very similar to dynosheet numbers and they (bren and others) commented saying the same thing, if you don't believe me get on it and look for yourself instead of pointing fingers at me thinking I'm on an anti-Gintani agenda
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky it says right on the goddamn picture on Facebook that the numbers ran very similar to dynosheet numbers and they commented saying the same thing, if you don't believe me get on it and look for yourself instead of pointing fingers at me thinking I'm on an anti-Gintani agenda
        Dynosheet numbers?

        I've used that dyno and a dynojet afterwards. How in the world are they similar when my own experience shows otherwise? Along with many others...

        Alex will be the first to tell you his dyno doesn't read like a dynojet so I have no idea where this is coming from. Go ahead, give me the facebook link and I'll take a look.

        Either way, if you think a YSI is only good for high 600's on a dynojet... I mean, look into the blower.
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        Dynojet *
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        What does this translate to the wheels? Why even post flywheel numbers?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        I thought this was going to be a thread about Stickys car....NOT!

        Yet another Gintani thread about a car that's not Stickys. 828 crank LOL, Stickys car better bemaking about 200 more than that if he wants to play with Earl and I. We were making these numbers 8 months ago.....must suck always being a step behind the AMG boys
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        What does this translate to the wheels? Why even post flywheel numbers?
        Subtract 18 to 20% for driveline loss to estimate rwhp, about 665 rwhp.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        What does this translate to the wheels? Why even post flywheel numbers?
        As already mentioned due to people being idiots when it comes to understanding rear wheel numbers on different dynos like a dyno dynamics and also this was not officially posted by Gintani.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Subtract 18 to 20% for driveline loss to estimate rwhp, about 665 rwhp.
        Doesn't work that way. Also, the manual M3 on a dynojet has losses as presented by that dyno of 15%. This car isn't losing 20% through the driveline.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I thought this was going to be a thread about Stickys car....NOT!

        Yet another Gintani thread about a car that's not Stickys. 828 crank LOL, Stickys car better bemaking about 200 more than that if he wants to play with Earl and I. We were making these numbers 8 months ago.....must suck always being a step behind the AMG boys
        This car will have the same suprercharger setup as me.

        Secondly, 828 lol? My car with far less than this would not have had trouble with where your car was. Secondly, now with where your car is going to be you should know this blower is capable of going up in boost quite a bit from only 16.5 psi. Steve has a great domestic background and can teach you all about the YSI and what it powers V8's to.

        Also, um, BMW's are making much more power than any AMG's. I really don't know where this self-appointed superiority comes from but clearly it doesn't come from a place called reality. The little old 3.2 liter from the E46 M3 is making how much over 1000 whp now? As in, how far behind are the AMG boys and for how long have they been?

        I know you are excited about your car but BMW's have been dominating the aftermarket scene for a LONG time and AMG has only recently even become relevant. Even then, the "AMG boys" are still way behind.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yukohama Click here to enlarge
        828.09 HP, 535.29TQ. I know nothing else about it, i just found the picture.

        edit- stalked around... and i believe this is the car.
        Attachment 14799
        Ahh its a 4 door. Much Love of the 4 door
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I thought this was going to be a thread about Stickys car....NOT!

        Yet another Gintani thread about a car that's not Stickys. 828 crank LOL, Stickys car better bemaking about 200 more than that if he wants to play with Earl and I. We were making these numbers 8 months ago.....must suck always being a step behind the AMG boys
        Why do you hate so much man, give it a break? Can I see some videos of your car some speedo vids, dyno graphs. Anything? The way you say you have 800whp, that's not an easy task for any car no matter what car it is.