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    • Another contender enters the E9X M3 S65 V8 supercharger ring - Evolve Automotive supercharger kit teaser

      The reveal of this information did not go exactly as planned as BimmerBoost vendor Evolve automotive wanted the reveal to take place here. Unfortunately, certain competitors got wind of Evolve entering the hotly contested E92 M3 supercharger market and set out to do their typical discrediting of competing products. It is for this reason that Evolve wanted to stay away from any other sites and do their reveal here. The official reveal may have been spoiled somewhat but here are the details on the three upcoming versions of the Evolve supercharger kit.


      There will be intercooled and non-intercooled versions. When speaking with Sal from Evolve during development BimmerBoost put emphasis on creating a non-intercooled version. Salman stated that he believes the S65 is extremely temperature sensitive from what he has seen from testing and did not necessarily like the idea. However, BimmerBoost believes an entry level alternative is necessary to what is already on the market. After some debate Evolve decided they will offer a 4-5 psi non-intercooled entry level kit.

      All Evolve kits use a Rotrex C38-91 supercharger. This is the largest supercharger in the Rotrex C38 range and it flows 11% more air than the C38-81. The RPM limit on this blower is 90,000 rpm, higher than any S65 V8 kit using a Vortech blower. No other kit features a Rotrex blower.






      This is the C38-91 compressor map:


      The C38-91 retails alone for $2595.

      [email]Sal@evolve has made a big point about the cooling when supercharging with this motor. That is why the plenum design is innovative and features a larger volume than competitors. The design of the kit is built around intercooling and not charge cooling.

      8 psi is good for the ~625 crank range. Here are dyno graphs at 7.5 psi on pump gas with the Evolve exhaust system:

      Flywheel:


      Wheels:


      Evolve has tested up to 9 psi but believes anything higher than 8 is pushing it on the stock internals with this blower. Production kits will feature 8psi for markets with fuel to support it. Here are graphs at 9 psi:




      The kit will be available for export and will be available for 91 octane fuel like what is available in California. The kits for 91 octane fuel will feature about one pound less boost, so 7 psi. Here is a rundown of the currently planned kit offerings and specs:

      Hardware:

      Rotrex C38-91 Kompressor (1100CFM)
      Self Contained Lubrication System with separate oil cooler
      High Tension Belt System with 270 DegC Belt Wrap
      Teflon Coated CNC Machined Billet Aluminium Bracket
      Teflon Coated CNC Machined Billet Aluminium Bracket Kompressor Bracket Housing*
      Teflon Coated CNC Machined Billet Aluminium Plenum with Optimised Velocity Stacks
      Teflon Coated CNC Machined Billet Aluminium Lower Bank 2 VANOS Cover
      Aluminium Crank and Water Pump Pulleys
      Evolve/ITG High Flow Foam Maxogen Filtration System
      8 x Bosch Motorsport Fuel Injectors
      Front Mount Air to Air Intercooler
      Boost Hoses
      Silicone Hoses
      Clamps
      Brackets

      Engine Management System:

      Calibration optimised both on dyno and road under various weather conditions

      Recalibrated MSS65 DME with optimized
      Fuel
      Ignition
      Torque Calculation
      CAM Timing

      Calibrations for 91(US)/95(EUR) + Octane Fuel

      Systems available:


      Non Intercooled 500-530HP System @ 5 PSI ---- Not Sure we want to release this yet! This is the one that needs the most amount of testing. Not happy releasing anything non intercooled.
      Air to Air Front Mount Intercooled 580-600 HP @ 7 PSI
      Air to Air Front Mount Intercooled 600-630 HP @ 8 PSI

      (Boost readings are taken at plenum)

      (Note – Power will vary and will be heavily dependant upon ambient temperatures as the S65 is very dependant upon combustion temperatures)

      *Reduces Stress on Tensioner Pulley and has a secondary function of protecting injury from belt


      Below are some additional pictures. Keep in mind the bracket is engineered from high grade 6082 aluminum that will additionally be coated with xylon/teflon. It will be able to handle all the rigors of supercharging without flexing whatsoever. There are no spacers used in the bracket.

      There is also no cutting required for the front mount intercooler.

      Expect more details in the coming weeks as the kits near completion for production.








      This article was originally published in forum thread: Yet another supercharger system coming out for the E9x M3-EVOLVE started by folgrz View original post
      Comments 295 Comments
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kiln Click here to enlarge
        how much longer do we have to wait for release.
        I know!!!??
      1. Ryo's Avatar
        Ryo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        I know!!!??
        Bring it soon, I would venture that you are loosing customers, everyday that you stall...

        Ryo
      1. flipm3's Avatar
        flipm3 -
        I am very confident that they trying their best to make final production of a quality product. We must not forget that the announcement of their supercharger kit was "leaked" and the information of their kit was released far before they originally intended to.

        Looking at the slow, but sure development of this kit is reassuring because they are only striving for the top. I think that's worth waiting for regardless of how long it takes. Click here to enlarge
      1. Mike@VAC's Avatar
        Mike@VAC -
        ^ What he said.

        IMO: The supercharged S65 market is young. As cars fall out of warranty and dip into the 30s, there will be a whole new crop of buyers for these cars. I'm one of them ;-)

        Our shop E92M was down for a few weeks (R&D) so I had a serious case of withdraw. After driving it for a few hours yesterday I realized - the withdraw was justified. A 600+ hp E9X M with proper suspension, tires and brakes is an every day exotic killer in just about any way. I had a fun exchange with a C6 Z06 Vette (typical bolt on mods) - I walked away from him at highway speeds pretty hard...he was very confused. Esp after a kid in a S4 caught up to us at the toll booth and said he couldnt even hear the Vette (who had an exhaust) after I hammered it. The Vette guy was cool, we laughed it off and I scared everyone within a mile as I exited the toll plaza. Sorry for the OT.

        I look FW to seeing what Sal and the boys come up with!



        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by flipm3 Click here to enlarge
        I am very confident that they trying their best to make final production of a quality product. We must not forget that the announcement of their supercharger kit was "leaked" and the information of their kit was released far before they originally intended to.

        Looking at the slow, but sure development of this kit is reassuring because they are only striving for the top. I think that's worth waiting for regardless of how long it takes. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
        Our shop E92M was down for a few weeks (R&D) so I had a serious case of withdraw. After driving it for a few hours yesterday I realized - the withdraw was justified. A 600+ hp E9X M with proper suspension, tires and brakes is an every day exotic killer in just about any way. I had a fun exchange with a C6 Z06 Vette (typical bolt on mods) - I walked away from him at highway speeds pretty hard...he was very confused. Esp after a kid in a S4 caught up to us at the toll booth and said he couldnt even hear the Vette (who had an exhaust) after I hammered it. The Vette guy was cool, we laughed it off and I scared everyone within a mile as I exited the toll plaza. Sorry for the OT.
        Cool story Click here to enlarge

        I don't know how much longer I can take this. I want my M3 back.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't know how much longer I can take this. I want my M3 back.
        I feel for you Bro. What's the status on it?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Just read the build thread.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Just read the build thread.
        SOMEONE removed me from that thread Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Then you have to wait.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Not a big deal. But my suggestion to you is selling the car to the Gintani. Move on and get something else. Giving up at this point is not a good thing to be proud of but it's life man. In future when you make a family, you will face a different life which won't let you do the car game you do (or should i say you used to do when you had the car), so get something else and enjoy while you can instead of waiting and waiting. I've changed more than 10 cars in the last 2 years because of the very same reason. I want to have fun while i can.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        It isn't a big deal man, it's almost done. Selling it to them isn't even an option.
      1. black bnr32's Avatar
        black bnr32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
        ^ What he said.

        IMO: The supercharged S65 market is young. As cars fall out of warranty and dip into the 30s, there will be a whole new crop of buyers for these cars.
        those new buyers will be looking past superchargers and towards turbos, just like the last 2 generations of 3 series.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
        those new buyers will be looking past superchargers and towards turbos, just like the last 2 generations of 3 series.
        There is no real turbo option to look towards.
      1. black bnr32's Avatar
        black bnr32 -
        that doesn't change my opinion.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
        that doesn't change my opinion.
        Well how will people look towards turbos then?
      1. Breakpoint's Avatar
        Breakpoint -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There is no real turbo option to look towards.
        ...R&D on my car start this fall...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Breakpoint Click here to enlarge
        ...R&D on my car start this fall...
        By whom?
      1. black bnr32's Avatar
        black bnr32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well how will people look towards turbos then?
        maybe they don't need a publicly offered turbo kit to look towards turbos
        maybe past experience has shown them that they prefer turbos
        maybe they have goals beyond supercharger capabilities
        maybe they want to develop some products to sell
        maybe they simply want to be different
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        The 2 markets are totally seperate. I prefer s/c over turbo and wouldnt consider putting one on the S65.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
        maybe they don't need a publicly offered turbo kit to look towards turbos
        maybe past experience has shown them that they prefer turbos
        maybe they have goals beyond supercharger capabilities
        maybe they want to develop some products to sell
        maybe they simply want to be different
        I agree with you I just don't know if you understand the reasons why we have not seen turbos yet.