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    • CHP pays out $2.3 million to family of girl who ran her father's Porsche into a toll booth at 100+ mph

      This a very sad and unfortunate situation but the worst part of it is that taxpayers are literally paying millions of dollars for it. Nicole Catsouras took her father's Porsche 911 for a joyride in 2006 and ran into a toll booth at over 100 mph after clipping another car killing herself. Fortunately she did not injure anyone else seriously. The CHP took photos of the crash and these photos leaked out onto the internet. The family sued and was awarded a $2.3 million settlement.

      Now, what if Nicole had killed some innocent bystanders instead of herself? Would the family be paying out millions of dollars? Did the family pay for the damage caused by the car to surrounding property? Why exactly should anyone be rewarded for an unfortunate accident that was caused by a girl who lost control of a sports car she took for a joyride let alone the family of said girl?

      "No amount of money can compensate for the pain the Catsouras family has suffered," CHP spokeswoman Fran Clader said in a statement. "We have reached a resolution with the family to save substantial costs of continued litigation and a jury trial. It is our hope that with this legal issue resolved, the Catsouras family can receive some closure."

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      1. mainah's Avatar
        mainah -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        Apparently the judge in the case thought so. I'm sure they didn't just pull some random amount of the sky - there is precedent in cases like this and I'm sure the familiy lawyers and CHP that into account before settling.

        Imagine if this was your daughter or sister and people started emailing you those horrific photos with the subject line saying "Hey Dad, I'm still alive"...nevermind the malicious facebook/myspace pages that surfaced with those same photos published for the world to gawk at and comment on...

        I don't see it as the family is cashing in on their daughter's death. The settlement is a reflection of the officers/departments liability in leaking what should have been confidential and highly sensitive (that's putting it lightly) photos. The resulting pain and trauma was real and the CHP must be held accountable.
        I agree 100%

        As a doctor, I've grown to detest the idea of settlements stemming from sympathy and the unnecessary litigation that otherwise occurs. However, in this case, I think the settlement was far too low.

        I've kept abreast of this story since it started and I've seen all the photos and some of the facebook pages.

        Not even an animal would send photos of a daughter's mangled body and white matter sitting on the pavement to a grieving parent. These parents didn't initially go out looking for these photos - they were sent (via a variety of media) maliciously by others to them as they were grieving. Not only the parents were targeted: these scum even contemplated targeting the younger sibling of this dead girl.

        The bottom line is that this girl's parents suffered immeasurably (from psychological trauma and having to remove their other daughter from school).
        In hindsight, nobody is suggesting that CHP forwarded these photos and directed the scumbags to do what they ultimately did.
        However, the fact remains that CHP were (are) ultimately responsible for causing a whole lotta hurt because they $#@!ed up. End of.

        I believe that if this case was put in front of a jury, the parents would have been awarded a much bigger sum of money (especially if the photos that were sent to the parents maliciously) were admitted in court.

        The more heartbreaking aspect to this case is that the father and daughter had a huge argument immediately preceding her jumping in the porsche and speeding off.
        Imagine that: the father's last words with his daughter were something along the lines of 'I hate you Dad'.

        Absolutely tragic.
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        This is why women should not be allowed to drive.
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        The sum is far too high. The settlement should be low 6 figures minus the damages incurred by the dead driver. Why? Companies and hospitals who are directly responsible for many deaths of people year round settle for far less. Mind you these are the people who pretty much "kill" other people for not doing their job correctly. Such "accidents" are then settled for far far less than $2.3 million. The CHP was not directly or indirectly responsible for her death. Parents should've raised the kid better, educated her better. But hey now they can get Porsches for the whole family.
      1. funkmobster's Avatar
        funkmobster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        Apparently the judge in the case thought so. I'm sure they didn't just pull some random amount of the sky - there is precedent in cases like this and I'm sure the familiy lawyers and CHP that into account before settling.

        Imagine if this was your daughter or sister and people started emailing you those horrific photos with the subject line saying "Hey Dad, I'm still alive"...nevermind the malicious facebook/myspace pages that surfaced with those same photos published for the world to gawk at and comment on...

        I don't see it as the family is cashing in on their daughter's death. The settlement is a reflection of the officers/departments liability in leaking what should have been confidential and highly sensitive (that's putting it lightly) photos. The resulting pain and trauma was real and the CHP must be held accountable.
        100% correct.
      1. BK63AMG's Avatar
        BK63AMG -
        @sr20seb,
        You've completely missed the point here. If you review the information more carefully, you'll see the settlement has nothing to do with her death (nowhere does it state CHP is responsible for her death.)

        The case has everything to do how the accident investigation was (mis) handled and the fact that graphic photos taken at scene of the accident were taken by two officers and shared with friends and family thus resulting in (extensive) harrassment and humiliation for the grieving family.

        @Sticky - I think you should have done a little more research before you started this thread. The OP and title suggest some kind of miscarriage of justice by way of the settlement but a little due diligence would have gone a long way providing some much-needed context (especially considering the subject matter.)
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        sr20zeb,
        You've completely missed the point here. If you review the information more carefully, you'll see the settlement has nothing to do with her death (nowhere does it state CHP is responsible for her death.)

        The case has everything to do how the accident investigation was (mis) handled and the fact that graphic photos taken at scene of the accident were taken by two officers and shared with friends and family thus resulting in (extensive) harrassment and humiliation for the grieving family.
        I believe you missed the point. How can a monatery value be placed higher on "leaked photos" or "mishandled investigation" than actually being responsible for taking somebody's life? Ok there was harassment that followed, which is easily avoided in this case:

        1. Don't go on facebook and close the account.
        2. Change your email address.

        That closes all the ways a person can be harassed via the internet, it only leaves person to person confrontation which nobody ever mentions happened. Also nobody mentions that the younger sibling was ever harassed, the parents decided to home school her as a precaution it seems. I would like somebody to explain to me how a 2.37 million dollar settlement is just because somebody leaked photos vs. $750k for administering wrong medication to 2 infants resulting in their deaths. Who suffered more mental anguish? How can you prove it? How can you even put a price tag on something so intangible.
      1. BK63AMG's Avatar
        BK63AMG -
        The family shouldn't have to change their emails or close their facebook accounts. Had the investigation been handled properly, the family could have moved on and mourned. It wasn't and the family suffered for it - to suggest that they stop using the internet to avoid the harrassment is pretty short-sighted.

        At the end of the day, neither one of us is in a position to determine the "value" that can be placed on this settlement - that's what lawyers and courts are for. It makes no sense to compare this to a medical malpractice case since in the eyes of the law, and irrespective of yours and my opinion, the situations are handled differently. Now, I'm not saying one is better or worse than the other, but at the end of the day, mistakes were made and the family is, by law, entitled to compensation as a result. Accidents resulting in death are always tragic and none of us are in a position to judge validity of suffering families endure in all cases.
      1. sr20seb's Avatar
        sr20seb -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        The family shouldn't have to change their emails or close their facebook accounts. Had the investigation been handled properly, the family could have moved on and mourned. It wasn't and the family suffered for it - to suggest that they stop using the internet to avoid the harrassment is pretty short-sighted.
        If harassment is coming through the emails then : Yes they should change them, and yes they should get off facebook or not visit it. None of these 2 are life essential things, and when something as massive as losing a child hits you the last thing on your mind should be:

        "Let me check facebook today......"
        "Ok look somebody is bombing me with spiteful emails, I shouldn't have to change my email address...."

        Forgive me but only retards think along those ways. I hope I don't have to go into detail on explaining this.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        I think you should have done a little more research before you started this thread. The OP and title suggest some kind of miscarriage of justice by way of the settlement but a little due diligence would have gone a long way providing some much-needed context (especially considering the subject matter.)
        Has nothing to do with research and I have followed this story for a long time. I think your opinion is that the money is warranted. My opinion is that it is not.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by sr20seb Click here to enlarge
        I believe you missed the point. How can a monatery value be placed higher on "leaked photos" or "mishandled investigation" than actually being responsible for taking somebody's life? Ok there was harassment that followed, which is easily avoided in this case:

        1. Don't go on facebook and close the account.
        2. Change your email address.

        That closes all the ways a person can be harassed via the internet, it only leaves person to person confrontation which nobody ever mentions happened. Also nobody mentions that the younger sibling was ever harassed, the parents decided to home school her as a precaution it seems. I would like somebody to explain to me how a 2.37 million dollar settlement is just because somebody leaked photos vs. $750k for administering wrong medication to 2 infants resulting in their deaths. Who suffered more mental anguish? How can you prove it? How can you even put a price tag on something so intangible.
        Bingo.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BK63AMG Click here to enlarge
        The family shouldn't have to change their emails or close their facebook accounts.
        And I should have to change my e-mail address or credit card when I get spam or a fraudulent charge but that does not entitle me to a large settlement.

        The fact is this situation was created by their daughter.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The fact is this situation was created by their daughter.
        More like themselves. If they raised her better, they all would have enjoying a nice day together.
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        @BK63AMG and @Mainnah although you two live in lala land or whatever, it is still no reason to sue the CHP, but rather the site who published it!! As far as Doctors there be, they sometimes commit mistakes due to negligence or whatever, why I say this cause my primary Doctor precribed me medication for a TERMINALLY ill liver patient and HELLOO!!! my liver is a FATTY liver. i did not take the medication cause my ex is a Doctor and she told me WTF is this and i told her her BUDDY prescribed it to me, she inmediately called him and gave him a lecture, I met with him a month later and I chewed his ass up BUT I did no sue him WHY? cause we are humans and we make mistakes. the mere fact that you state that this BIMBO's family should be compensated because of her STUPIDITY!!. Blows my mind.I have 5 kids and they have been taught by both my ex-wives and myself that a car can be dangerous if not handled properly. Blaming your own daughters death photo publication and getting compensated is merely STUPID. Like I stated before the photos should be MADE public for TRAINING purposes and leave the gore out, if you want gore then you go to the website that posted it and taht I believe is PUBLIC!!! Got to go amigos I very upset cause some people in this world believe they are POLITICALLY Correct for everything. Next thing I know it will be a crime to wipe your ass with either hand and then hold someones hand with your left hand. WTF