• No diesel BMW M models for the United States, huge letdown

                    
      		   
      Published on 01-13-2012 04:34 AM
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      Thank you for kicking your American performance enthusiasts in the balls yet again BMW. Fortunately, we are used to it (CSL, GTS) so it no longer hurts the way it used to. Would someone please make sense of this? BMW hypes the hell out of its new X6M50d with teaser videos telling us how great of an "M" it is and gets us all turned on at the prospect of a high performance diesel only to leave us hanging. BMW, you are the girlfriend from hell.

      Reports coming in from the NAIAS (North American International Auto Show) state that BMWNA product manager Paul Ferraiolo said the decision for now is that the cars will not come to the USA. Further confirmation came from BMWNA M brand manager Matt Russel who stated the chances for the M diesels coming to North America are pretty slim.

      So what was the point of all this? We want more diesels in North America. We want a high performance diesel option. You are about to be surpassed by Audi. Sell us as many models as you can. Diesel demand is up by huge numbers in the USA. Why in the world will you not capitalize on it? This is a love-hate relationship if there ever was one. BMW, stop toying with us.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: No diesel BMW M models for the United States, huge letdown started by Sticky View original post
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      1. persian54's Avatar
        persian54 - 01-13-2012, 04:42 AM
        Damn..... Diesel cars are amazing... great MPG, lots of torque. We need more of them here!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-13-2012, 04:43 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by persian54 Click here to enlarge
        Damn..... Diesel cars are amazing... great MPG, lots of torque. We need more of them here!
        This decision is idiotic. Oh great, more hybrids for us.
      1. George Smooth's Avatar
        George Smooth - 01-13-2012, 06:49 AM
        How good is the quality of diesel in the States and the Sulphur content?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-13-2012, 06:51 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
        How good is the quality of diesel in the States and the Sulphur content?
        I believe @Ronin had a great thread on this topic.
      1. FLYING X5's Avatar
        FLYING X5 - 01-13-2012, 07:31 AM
        This is... Beyond stupid... Considering that the Hybrids do so well here in the states (sarcastic).

        Who is BMW surveying when they do these things? Obviously not the performance & mod junkies... probably the 50 - 70 year olds who drives the 5 or 7 series like they are driving Miss Daisy (I know there are a few 50+ year olds who are performance junkies, so I'm not trying to stereotype).

        Audi is looking better and better at this point... No 40d here in the states, no M diesels in the States... BMW is making a bad decision (considering that the X1, X3, X5 and X6 series for example is built in the United States, so what sense does it make to not offer it in the States)
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-13-2012, 07:37 AM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FLYING X5 Click here to enlarge
        Who is BMW surveying when they do these things? Obviously not the performance & mod junkies...
        It doesn't make much sense considering the X5 and X6 are built in the USA as you wrote.
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 - 01-13-2012, 08:38 AM
        No bull$#@! - these idiots need to start polling forums like this for data... Actual enthusiast who buy multiple M cars, tune them, etc... Boo.Cheers.
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d - 01-13-2012, 10:03 AM
        SOB mother falkersClick here to enlarge WTF are they thinking, they saw how the 335d sold in certain areas succesfully and now pull the rug under our feet to land in a pile of horsesheit. Boy Im glad I bought my 335d but if i would of waited longer, the AUDI DIESEL would been my choice with its new DIESELS. BMWA you totally Fup with us Click here to enlarge expect many to jump in the AUDI bandwagon!!!Click here to enlargeBoy am I pissed at this crap. And I aint even buying an "M" car whatsover since I hv my 335d
      1. BoostAddict's Avatar
        BoostAddict - 01-13-2012, 11:40 AM
        That's sucks. My buddy just got a 2012 335D last week. I rode in it yesterday and really liked it. Too bad the U.S. market doesn't understand diesel is better.
      1. bluejeansonfire's Avatar
        bluejeansonfire - 01-13-2012, 05:31 PM
        I enjoy reading the more emotional Sticky. Advocate of the deprived American enthusiast. I've been a diesel fanboy for ages; before BMWs, I drove a w126 300sd, w123 300td, and a w123 240d. M diesel sounds like pure win. And an appropriate use of heavy technology given the chassis.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin - 01-13-2012, 05:33 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BoostAddict Click here to enlarge
        That's sucks. My buddy just got a 2012 335D last week. I rode in it yesterday and really liked it. Too bad the U.S. market doesn't understand diesel is better.
        Not to nitpick, but your buddy didn't get a 2012. Not possible. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-13-2012, 06:13 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bluejeansonfire Click here to enlarge
        I enjoy reading the more emotional Sticky. Advocate of the deprived American enthusiast.
        I always provide my opinion but sometimes I have to tone it down to be more professional on the blog/news side of things. When BMW pisses me off it is difficult to hold back.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin - 01-13-2012, 07:15 PM
        http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/10/bmw-still-has-no-plans-for-1-series-hatch-in-states-x6-like-x/

        All that's being said right now is that there's no diesel variants coming in 2012. That doesn't mean that they won't bring them back over in future years.
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 - 01-13-2012, 08:05 PM
        Looking at this again, I am still a bit depressed. I really think the 335d is a great car - with the M sport package, it would be an ideal road trip - or just daily driver. It handles good, pulls hard - basically does everything well while getting good to excellent gas mileage considering the performance.

        I am really curious to see the sales numbers on this car - both here and overseas. Does anyone know how to get at these numbers? I am wondering if the sales were terrible on the 335d - and they based their choice on this?

        On another note (possible another thread) - remember the jags oversold the 1m that was beaten-in as opposed to broken in? Well, looks like they are trying to get on the good side of the media -
      1. 62Lincoln's Avatar
        62Lincoln - 01-13-2012, 08:06 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I always provide my opinion but sometimes I have to tone it down to be more professional on the blog/news side of things. When BMW pisses me off it is difficult to hold back.
        IIRC, the new head of BMWNA is another german tool that knows dick about the U.S. market. Might explain a lot.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin - 01-13-2012, 11:11 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        I am really curious to see the sales numbers on this car - both here and overseas. Does anyone know how to get at these numbers? I am wondering if the sales were terrible on the 335d - and they based their choice on this?
        There's a thread running around on one of the forums with this information...but I'm not sure which one. I'll see if I can find it.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-13-2012, 11:12 PM
        From what I heard the X5 diesel and 335 diesel are high demand models.
      1. BoostAddict's Avatar
        BoostAddict - 01-14-2012, 01:25 AM
        2011, my mistake. All i know is, it is brand new and i really like it.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC - 01-14-2012, 01:47 PM
        Great decision by bmw. A M-diesel in the US is completely useless, with diesel prices the way they are.

        My brother-in-law had a x5d, he ended up spending more on fuel than his buddies x5 35i. At times it cost $85+ to fill up.

        I couldn't imagine a MX6d eating diesel.

        The 335d is a different story, it gets much better mpg.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky - 01-14-2012, 04:47 PM
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Great decision by bmw. A M-diesel in the US is completely useless, with diesel prices the way they are.
        Disagree completely. This would equate to all diesels being useless and plenty of guys have 335 and X5 d's.

        This would get much better mileage than an X5M which plenty of people buy.
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