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    • Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2012 results - X5M beats E92 335is around Virginia International Raceway (VIR), TT-RS beats 1M

      We really like the Car and Driver Lightning Lap articles where they take a nice group of cars and run them all on the same roadcourse comparing the laptimes. The 2012 edition includes the X5M which surprisingly outlapped the 335is by over 2 seconds. What else is interesting is that the top speed the X5M hit matched the much lighter BMW 1M although the smaller bimmer did outlap as it should. Something to keep in mind is that VIR is a 4.1 mile long course meaning it is fairly long so power is at a premium.

      The X5M was able to beat several cars which are not even its competition although certainly capable such as the Golf R and 335is and it simply crushed the Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 by just over 7 seconds. The X5M was not even far off the lighter Z4 sDrive35is which beat it by less than a second and was not able to hit the same peak speed. This can either be viewed as the X5M being very impressive or the other BMW models which are much lighter needing some work. The 335is is soon to be replaced so we look forward to seeing how the F30 generation stacks up.

      In a stark contrast to all other comparisons that have taken place between the 1M and the TT-RS with the 1M usually setting the quicker laptimes the opposite happened here. The TT-RS in Car and Driver's hands managed to beat the 1M by just slightly under 2 seconds. It also hit a higher peak speed.

      These results are definitely interesting and no doubt will be debated by enthusiasts for some time to come.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Car and Driver Lightning Lap 2012 results - X5M beats E92 335is around Virginia International Raceway (VIR), TT-RS beats 1M started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        true...but isnt that the panamera turbo S? the one thats like 20k more than the regular turbo with like 30 more hp?...sooooooooooooo expensive...
        Just think of it as a mildly tuned Panamera Turbo.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lughed Click here to enlarge
        No surprise at all that the X5M outlapped the 335is.
        Even at 5300+ pounds and being an SUV?
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        I enjoy the lighting lap each year but I hate to see the in-consistanceys when doing year to year comparisons. Car and Driver sure does make themselves look like bafoons referencing/comparing year to year times but lacking any mention, or enough mention of weather conditions or driver differences.

        3+ seconds 335is DCT vs 335i 6 speed needs more explanation than "our staff doesn't prefer the DCT."
        6 second 997 GT3 vs 997.2 GT3 RS.. wtf
        9 second difference from ISF slight suspension changes/LSD?
        V6 Mustang (hits governor on 3 sections) faster than Evo, RS4, STi, 135i. I know it's good but...

        If it were my magazine, i'd want to do something more constant with a named pro driver like Randy Pobst and Motor Trend's Laguna Laps.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
        Car and Driver sure does make themselves look like bafoons referencing/comparing year to year times but lacking any mention, or enough mention of weather conditions or driver differences.
        Boy did you hit the nail on the head here.