• BMW 335 battle - E90 automatic with JB4 at 16 psi takes on a Vishnu Procede E92 6 speed at 18 psi

      The BMS versus Vishnu N54 tuner fight is one of those never ending wars with battles fought again and again with victories on both sides often leaving fanboys crying and disoriented. It is great to see actual comparisons in the real world instead of the typical forum flame war and we have such a comparison right here. The E90 in the video has a JB4 on map 3 16 psi, BMS meth kit, ER charge pipe, Synapse BOV, AR catless downpipes, HPF intercooler, and BMS DCI. The E92 has the Procede aggressive map at 18 psi, PWM meth kit, AR Downpipes, Vishnu charge pipe, muffler delete, and Stett CAI.

      The E90 with the JB4 and less boost surprisingly pulls the E92 with the Procede on both runs. No word on if Shiv@Vishnu had a heart attack after seeing the result or if the Vishnu fanboys grabbed pitchforks and torches and are marching on the location of the BimmerBoost server as you read this. To be fair, the E92 6 speed had clutch slipping and meth issues. Definitely a cool comparison to see and there is no denying the automatic is more consistent. We look forward to seeing a rematch.



      This article was originally published in forum thread: JB4 vs Procede started by Forcefed View original post
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      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        I need someone to race with in MIA
      1. Forcefed's Avatar
        Forcefed -
        Love the write up, Sticky. A new video will be posted using 2 go pro's and 2 iphone camera mounts. It will be done tomorrow or Monday. As of now, the E92's meth kit is working at 100%, so meth kit problems will not be a dispute for this next video. The following will be done to the JB4 E90: second methanol nozzle (CM5) and 15 ohm resistors. That will be good for 300cc/min extra meth and 2.5psi more boost. I am very excited for this next video, it will be much better; more racing, better editing, and no complaints.

        P.S: The other driver and I are actually good friends. We dont have tuner wars IRL Click here to enlarge
      1. onurleft's Avatar
        onurleft -
        This video should not of been posted on the front page of Bimmerboost to represent BMW vs Vishnu, plain and simple..Although it's fun to watch, one car has serious issues and another car is running fine. There will be a re-run when a new clutch is in the E92, this video was more for fun
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
        This video should not of been posted on the front page of Bimmerboost to represent BMW vs Vishnu, plain and simple
        And why not exactly? What happened, happened. They will have a rematch and we can post it again with a new outcome in the never ending JB vs. Procede war. From the clicks I'm seeing people are enjoying it and the issues are mentioned so not like anyone is lying.

        The runs were for fun and so was the post as it was crafted.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Forcefed Click here to enlarge
        P.S: The other driver and I are actually good friends. We dont have tuner wars IRL
        Shhh.... the fanboys must not find out guys from two different tuner camps get along. It could lead to actual constructive posting.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Since this is an all N54 affair moving to the N54 section.
      1. maxnix's Avatar
        maxnix -
        Automatics always pull manuals on the strip.
      1. Big Tom's Avatar
        Big Tom -
        335i MT, Vishnu V5, FBO + Meth 18 psi and Slipping Clutch (Camera car)
        vs
        335i AT, JB4, FBO + Meth 19 psi

        Click here to enlarge


      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        private
      1. Big Tom's Avatar
        Big Tom -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        private
        O crap...

        Fixed! Click here to enlarge
      1. ERM324's Avatar
        ERM324 -
        its less about the tune you have and more dependent upon how aggressive of a map the user is running on each tune......a better race would having two identical cars (same tranny and bolt ons), and run them with each tune maxed out to capacity on racegas+meth...............given that.........JB FTW Click here to enlarge
      1. jjurroz's Avatar
        jjurroz -
        get a new passenger. You specifically asked him "how's that" and he confirms everything is good. Why even have the laptop open if he doesn't even know what he's looking at? He should have known right away that you weren't flowing enough meth or none at all. Your hazards NOT blinking is another indicator as well that something wasn't right. At that point, you should have shut it down and looked for the problem.

        p.s. The CEL was not a "fluke", it was a procede trouble code indicating an overflow condition (meth flow not set right or parameters not set right)
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Shhh.... the fanboys must not find out guys from two different tuner camps get along. It could lead to actual constructive posting.
        Sorry, I'm from tuner camp #3, and I hate tuner camp #1 and neutral towards camp #2, but I have to say this is the most useless video ever. The Procede's meth kit wasn't even working properly so couldn't have been able to transition to the more aggressive meth boost/timing curve. I suppose we haven't had a good tuner war in a while so this was due.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
        its less about the tune you have and more dependent upon how aggressive of a map the user is running on each tune......a better race would having two identical cars (same tranny and bolt ons), and run them with each tune maxed out to capacity on racegas+meth...............given that.........JB FTW Click here to enlarge
        It isn't about trying to even variables in a science experiment. It just shows what happened when two 335's raced that each had a certain set of mods.
      1. RTA's Avatar
        RTA -
        wtf... very useful, comparing a car with issues to a car in shape and then call the car in shape the champ.... hmmm extremely useful... NOTLike winning the 100mtr hurdle from a midget....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
        Sorry, I'm from tuner camp #3, and I hate tuner camp #1 and neutral towards camp #2, but I have to say this is the most useless video ever.
        So.... time for war? Camp #3 marches on camp #1 and #2 when they least expect it?

        It's just a fun video and fun post guys. The guys who ran are members here and get along fine. Nobodies head was cut off, no men were lost.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RTA Click here to enlarge
        wtf... very useful, comparing a car with issues to a car in shape and then call the car in shape the champ.... hmmm extremely useful... NOTLike winning the 100mtr hurdle from a midget....
        Some of you people just can not and will not get it. Is it impossible to have any fun at all when these two tunes are involved?
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It isn't about trying to even variables in a science experiment. It just shows what happened when two 335's raced that each had a certain set of mods.
        It just shows what happens when a car's meth kit doesn't work properly and the other car's kit does. Rapage Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
        It just shows what happens when a car's meth kit doesn't work properly and the other car's kit does. Rapage Click here to enlarge
        Well then, see, there is a use after all.
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well then, see, there is a use after all.
        Would you post this video if the Procede car anally raped the JB4 car? Just curious.