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    • DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.






































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Black Sheep's Avatar
        Black Sheep -
        Let me know if you end up getting a private rental at Byron
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Black Sheep Click here to enlarge
        Let me know if you end up getting a private rental at Byron
        I do a couple of them a year, I will let you knwo when I have some dates figured out.
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Black Sheep Click here to enlarge
        Let me know if you end up getting a private rental at Byron
        +1, in the need for a little road trip...
      1. Black Sheep's Avatar
        Black Sheep -
        Cool, Thanks
      1. rooringhusky's Avatar
        rooringhusky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        What am I critcizing? Calling me out to race is fun I have said forever I have no problem with that and it's all in good fun as far as I'm concerned. Calling my car a piece of junk and putting people down because he is isolated from what is going on and thinks he knows what the timeframe should be is petty, childish, and absurd.



        Sorry it's not all as simple as you guys think it is.
        All he is doing is calling you out to race and from what I see its in good fun....No ill intent from what I see...

        I can totally understand you feel his intent is negative because of the way he pokes at you...Even when he calls your car a piece of junk he doesnt mean it literally but you decide to take it to heart and get butthurt and then on top of that defend yourself...Thats your fault for taking each and every comment to heart...If you dont see the big picture from the hundred and hundreds of comments JRCART throws at you then your just being blind or ignorant...He is actually trying to get you to do quite the opposite and not take what he says to heart...He just wants your car done...And the race between you and him to materialize...

        I highlighted the time frame part since your the one who always decides to add a timelines/deadlines of your car...it wouldnt be beat to a dead horse by everyone if you didnt always feel the need to step in with your own time frame deadlines to defend yourself and your car...The way you keep talking about your car being done "in a few weeks", "next month", "starting engine next week", "break-in next few weeks", "signed up for the airstrip event hope to make it", "will make it to the airstrip event", "wont make it to the airstrip event because break-in", etc etc etc only gives people more fuel to throw at you...Dont call out others for questioning the deadlines/timeline when you yourself have been feeding us BS about the dates for such a longtime now...Gintani is making a mockery out of you...until you do something to change this it will continue....JRCART is being a good friend I would thank him...

        With all this being said...it may sound like im being negative but im not...Just want to see you push to get this car done to back up all the $#@! talking you do lol Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        If you know what is going on why on earth would you post on Sunday that your car would be started this week and begin engine break in next week????????
        Because that is what I was told directly and this week is not over is it?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        At what point do you hold their asses to the fire?
        When I determine that is necessary. They know what needs to be done, ok?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I will play the role of the bastard bad guy if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside but at the end of the day I have two cars that go dow the race track and you have nothing but Gintani excuses to run at the track!
        Do whatever you want.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rooringhusky Click here to enlarge
        All he is doing is calling you out to race and from what I see its in good fun....No ill intent from what I see...
        So you do it by calling my car a piece of junk and with negative overtones to the tuner, shop, and everyone involved?

        Racing is fine who cares about that it's the tone.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rooringhusky Click here to enlarge
        With all this being said...it may sound like im being negative but im not...Just want to see you push to get this car done to back up all the $#@! talking you do lol
        It's being worked on I don't know what else you want, slave labor?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        +1, in the need for a little road trip...
        definately, if you can make it that would be great...then there will be at least two cars that can beat Sticky lol
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Because that is what I was told directly and this week is not over is it?



        When I determine that is necessary. They know what needs to be done, ok?



        Do whatever you want.
        Doesn't matter if this week is over or not, someone already said they called and spoke with Matt and they are shooting for next week...next month, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week..... Do you know who J Wellington Wimpy is? Maybe you should change your username.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's being worked on I don't know what else you want, slave labor?
        I don't know about being worked on, but you were certainly worked over by Gintani.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Doesn't matter if this week is over or not, someone already said they called and spoke with Matt and they are shooting for next week...next month, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week, next week..... Do you know who J Wellington Wimpy is? Maybe you should change your username.
        Ok you be negative cool I'll let them do their work. Go babysit them if you like. RELAX.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I don't know about being worked on, but you were certainly worked over by Gintani.
        Nowhere near to a degree as you were by Evosport.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Two months ago when Sticky announced the No Fly Zone event someone asked if his car was going to be ready, his response "if not there's going to be hell to pay" or something along those lines...No Fly Zone was two weeks ago, there was absolutely no hell to play and still no running car.

        Somebody has zero credibility, I know it is not me.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Nowhere near to a degree as you were by Evosport.
        I beg to differ, they made good on all the money I was owed and my car has been running for over the past two years since that debacle ended. Your damn build started before that whole debacle and it is still not $#@!ing running, how do you figure I got it worse????
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Two months ago when Sticky announced the No Fly Zone event someone asked if his car was going to be ready, his response "if not there's going to be hell to pay" or something along those lines...No Fly Zone was two weeks ago, there was absolutely no hell to play and still no running car.

        Somebody has zero credibility, I know it is not me.
        What makes you think they haven't?

        Seriously your constant whining serves no purpose. Go ahead, type for days, it isn't going to change anything. Either fly out and pick up a wrench or just wait like everyone else.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I beg to differ, they made good on all the money I was owed and my car has been running for over the past two years since that debacle ended. Your damn build started before that whole debacle and it is still not $#@!ing running, how do you figure I got it worse????
        Ya, it was a debacle, exactly.

        My build is completely different and all builds don't work on the same time schedule as all cars are not the same. Blah blah blah blah
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        I bet we are having the same discussion one week from now, and again after you miss Shift Sector...DCT this and Sleeved that and some build take longer......blah blah blah to you, you're the one that sounds like a broken record with all the excuses, not me, ask the masses, I am sure they will agree.
      1. AWil335i's Avatar
        AWil335i -
        I really want to see this race in Chicago....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        I bet we are having the same discussion one week from now, and again after you miss Shift Sector...DCT this and Sleeved that and some build take longer......blah blah blah to you, you're the one that sounds like a broken record with all the excuses, not me, ask the masses, I am sure they will agree.
        Ok well I hope not yay. Take care and enjoy your weekend.