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      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.





































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I dare you try to compete with me. Go ahead, who is stopping you?

        E46 m3? Is this 2001? Been there done that. Funny how now your ego is threatened. My car will talk for me in the mean time like I told you sit back and watch this is a BUILD thread.
        No ego threatened.. I'm just bored and needed something to do. I'll pickup an E92 this weekend. Let the games begin!

        Edit: It will be a 6 spd though.. I prefer to row gears myself. Old habbit.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        No ego threatened.. I'm just bored and needed something to do. I'll pickup an E92 this weekend. Let the games begin!
        Bring it on.
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Bring it on.
        Its easiest to push a platform when you've got competition. Plenty of good shall come from this. I'm confident of that! You've got a head start, I'll likely need a year to complete this, but I'll keep you posted.
      1. benzy89's Avatar
        benzy89 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        Did someone say Z4M? This was supposed to be in our trailer, but the ECU wasn't done in time for Shift-S3ctor. Click here to enlarge

        http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im...MG_8590R-1.jpg

        Flex Fuel (E85), GTX35R Turbo, Twin Scroll, 11.5:1 Compression (stock internals). But still should be good to 650rwhp or so if the turbo can keep up.

        Edit: sorry for off topic.
        Saad Racing kit?? Guessing cause the ProEFI & the non-HPF manifold


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Im not build ing an e46 had one of those when i was 17. Im doing a bmw build on a level nobody else in the country is sit back and enjoy.
        He's got one of the most well known (and respected) Turbo E46 M3s and you've got allegedly the most powerful E92 M3, except for the part where it's not running 100% yet. REALLY hoping that Alex nailed down the DCT fix for your car so we can see it running the 1/4 mile, 60-130s & some airfield runs.




        BUT in all honesty, this I've got more money then you do $#@! is old & no one gives a $#@!. Let's focus on $#@! that we're here to discuss: performance cars.
      1. e38 prototype's Avatar
        e38 prototype -
        Money does not make you better than anyone. Just so you know. Have a little respect.

        Less talking more car build updates. Put the money where your mouth is so the rest of us can finally see the $#@!ing car run, the only reason I'm in this thread is for my love of fast euros... no matter the year, make or model.

        Keep an open mind fella's
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I've been getting $#@! about money on forums for over a decade hasn't stopped me yet. If people want to hate on being young with money and m cars since I was a teen it's fine with me. Only getting better these days.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e38 prototype Click here to enlarge
        Money does not make you better than anyone. Just so you know. Have a little respect.

        Less talking more car build updates. Put the money where your mouth is so the rest of us can finally see the $#@!ing car run, the only reason I'm in this thread is for my love of fast euros... no matter the year, make or model.

        Keep an open mind fella's
        How much do you think a build like this costs and who else is doing one?
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
        Saad Racing kit?? Guessing cause the ProEFI & the non-HPF manifold



        He's got one of the most well known (and respected) Turbo E46 M3s and you've got allegedly the most powerful E92 M3, except for the part where it's not running 100% yet. REALLY hoping that Alex nailed down the DCT fix for your car so we can see it running the 1/4 mile, 60-130s & some airfield runs.




        BUT in all honesty, this I've got more money then you do $#@! is old & no one gives a $#@!. Let's focus on $#@! that we're here to discuss: performance cars.

        The Z4M is a one off build. Hope to have it running next week. It is having the ProEFI removed.. the ECU just simply didn't work with the car and no further progress was made with the ECU. HPF had to pull theirs and so did a gentleman in TUrkey. The Z4M runs the MSS70 (a MSS60 varient ecu) and not the same MSS54 as the E46 M3 even though its the same motor. So that said it just wasn't compatible. We're working on a custom ECU solution for it, hope it works.. fingers crossed. The car is just to beautiful to not be out there driving.. the manifold is like art.

        Regarding the money talk.. I'm not saying I have more money or less money then sticky.. I was agreeing that money is not the topic of this situation so why is it brought up so often. Seem's sticky likes to insult people based upon the amount of money he has. That is one of the few things that absolutely rubs me the wrong way.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I don't give a $#@! if it rubs you the wrong way. I'm not the one bringing up where I live (which is absurdly nice if you are curious) or what I have to spend. If you want to question it be prepared for a response. And not me bragging about other peoples stuff.
      1. e38 prototype's Avatar
        e38 prototype -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        How much do you think a build like this costs and who else is doing one?
        Way too much! And I see multiple builds on multiple platforms by guys just like you, them wanting to do something no one else has. The difference is that it's supposed to be fun to do and share, not make fun of people because they aren't doing the same thing you choose pursue... if they could afford to it or not.

        You're falling off track as of late and I can tell SSP has you fired up, (You aren't the same dude I chatted with in person while you were here for timmyfest) But, I would be too... though I'm not going to take it out on anyone other than myself for being so stupid. Can't be ignorant towards your forum members situations. Might wanna start running this place like a legit business.
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't give a $#@! if it rubs you the wrong way. I'm not the one bringing up where I live (which is absurdly nice if you are curious) or what I have to spend. If you want to question it be prepared for a response. And not me bragging about other peoples stuff.
        You most certainly are! You're knocking on dudes Z4M. Then you're calling dudes houses $#@!ty compared to 'your mansion'. Then you come after me when I call you out on it!

        Who's bragging about other peoples stuff? If you're referring to the Z4M, yes its a very good friend of mines who'm I've been helping with the build all along.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Legit business? Which brings me how much btw? Revenue is up by how much?

        No amount of money is worth more than me speaking my mind count on that as legit.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        You most certainly are! You'making bets withcking on dudes Z4M. Then you're calling dudes houses $#@!ty compared to 'your mansion'. Then you come after me when I call you out on it!

        Who's bragging about other peoples stuff? If you're referring to the Z4M, yes its a very good friend of mines who'm I've been helping with the build all along.
        For sure $#@! that guy posting from multiple names making bets with someone else's money. I don't think you know the situation.
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge

        No amount of money is worth more than me speaking my mind count on that as legit.
        There's something we can both agree on.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e38 prototype Click here to enlarge
        Way too much! And I see multiple builds on multiple platforms by guys just like you, them wanting to do something no one else has. The difference is that it's supposed to be fun to do and share, not make fun of people because they aren't doing the same thing you choose pursue... if they could afford to it or not.

        You're falling off track as of late and I can tell SSP has you fired up, (You aren't the same dude I chatted with in person while you were here for timmyfest) But, I would be too... though I'm not going to take it out on anyone other than myself for being so stupid. Can't be ignorant towards your forum members situations. Might wanna start running this place like a legit business.
        It's stupid to try to get a trans build done nobody else has? Please tell me what you would do. What are you doing? Easy to talk. This is nothing it will get resolved and I'll collect the records, no sweat here. SSP wil be held accountable.
      1. ZooyorQ's Avatar
        ZooyorQ -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        For sure $#@! that guy posting from multiple names making bets with someone else's money. I don't think you know the situation.

        Sorry, like the guy or not. I was actually just referring to how you brought up his car and then insulted it. Then insulted my car.. I've never once insulted your car.. or insinuated it was anything less than a stellar car. I may have just claimed i'm going to attempt to build a faster version.. but that's not insulting your car. As a TRUE car enthusiast I get really heated when people insult other peoples cars regardless of the year, make, model or value. Unless its a corvette.. I hate corvettes.
      1. e38 prototype's Avatar
        e38 prototype -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        Sorry, like the guy or not. I was actually just referring to how you brought up his car and then insulted it. Then insulted my car.. I've never once insulted your car.. or insinuated it was anything less than a stellar car. I may have just claimed i'm going to attempt to build a faster version.. but that's not insulting your car. As a TRUE car enthusiast I get really heated when people insult other peoples cars regardless of the year, make, model or value. Unless its a corvette.. I hate corvettes.
        I'm with him...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        Sorry, like the guy or not. I was actually just referring to how you brought up his car and then insulted it. Then insulted my car.. I've never once insulted your car.. or insinuated it was anything less than a stellar car. I may have just claimed i'm going to attempt to build a faster version.. but that's not insulting your car. As a TRUE car enthusiast I get really heated when people insult other peoples cars regardless of the year, make, model or value. Unless its a corvette.. I hate corvettes.
        He deserves it like I said 100% and then some.

        Build a better e92 im not stopping you. And my record on this forum shows I'm quite the car enthusiast period.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
        Sorry, like the guy or not. I was actually just referring to how you brought up his car and then insulted it. Then insulted my car.. I've never once insulted your car.. or insinuated it was anything less than a stellar car. I may have just claimed i'm going to attempt to build a faster version.. but that's not insulting your car. As a TRUE car enthusiast I get really heated when people insult other peoples cars regardless of the year, make, model or value. Unless its a corvette.. I hate corvettes.
        He deserves it like I said 100% and then some.

        Build a better e92 im not stopping you. And my record on this forum shows I'm quite the car enthusiast period.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by e38 prototype Click here to enlarge
        I'm with him...
        Ok, and that changes what? Nothing.