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    • DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.






































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Just left gintani. They are trying to get the car done in time for mfest although I do not think it will get done in time with all the work left plus I don't gove a $#@! about mfest.

        Motor is in, headers are on. Working on the trans although fittings and lines ssp was supposed to supply were not supplied. These should not be at my cost so we will see if ssp steps up.

        The ssp pan also does not fit meaning Gintani has to machine it.
        Crap that sucks with SSP's hardware, what the heck happened? At least it's coming along lol, you better come to mfest dude.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Crap that sucks with SSP's hardware, what the heck happened? At least it's coming along lol, you better come to mfest dude.
        I seriously doubt they will make Mfest, just too much work left. I really don't care about that. I want to hit the strip, the drag strip.

        Ya I don't understand the deal with the DCT hardware issues that should have been taken care of a long time ago.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        So why did it take so much time to find out that the SSP Pan doesnt fit. In what way does it not fit? Any pics?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        So why did it take so much time to find out that the SSP Pan doesnt fit. In what way does it not fit? Any pics?
        I wanted to take pics but they are machining it to fit. They will have pics soon.

        In what way does it not fit? Well, it just doesn't fit or match the stock piece as a guide for fitment. I'm not sure how they could have missed that...

        Why did it take so much time to find out SSP's pan doesn't fit? I don't know, guess everyone thought it would and didn't bother to check. I don't know why SSP wouldn't have checked themselves.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I wanted to take pics but they are machining it to fit. They will have pics soon.

        In what way does it not fit? Well, it just doesn't fit or match the stock piece as a guide for fitment. I'm not sure how they could have missed that...

        Why did it take so much time to find out SSP's pan doesn't fit? I don't know, guess everyone thought it would and didn't bother to check. I don't know why SSP wouldn't have checked themselves.
        Ridiculous crap is happening man. I feel if I go buy an SSP Pan now it'll fit. MAYBE. Just have a wierd feeling it will. So Next time take some pics as a pic says a thousand words Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        Ridiculous crap is happening man. I feel if I go buy an SSP Pan now it'll fit. MAYBE. Just have a wierd feeling it will. So Next time take some pics as a pic says a thousand words Click here to enlarge
        I saw the pan today with my own eyes as well as the stock pan.

        I'll get you pics so you can judge for yourself.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I saw the pan today with my own eyes as well as the stock pan.

        I'll get you pics so you can judge for yourself.
        yes Please bro that'll be great. I know how u feel but me as an outsider im just tired of hearing and not seeing this car any more. The updates started off well but then died a boring delayed death. God willing all this gets sorted out soon.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        yes Please bro that'll be great. I know how u feel but me as an outsider im just tired of hearing and not seeing this car any more. The updates started off well but then died a boring delayed death. God willing all this gets sorted out soon.
        Well I had pictures sent to me and I did the updates diligently.

        I'm just updating with text now as the trans build is done and don't have photos sent to me. I'll get you some pics to support my text.

        I'm not BS'ing anyone here, the pan doesn't fit and I'm missing lines and fittings from SSP which I'm going to billed for. Makes me wonder what my car was sitting there for so long for.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Well I had pictures sent to me and I did the updates diligently.

        I'm just updating with text now as the trans build is done and don't have photos sent to me. I'll get you some pics to support my text.

        I'm not BS'ing anyone here, the pan doesn't fit and I'm missing lines and fittings from SSP which I'm going to billed for. Makes me wonder what my car was sitting there for so long for.
        I know for a fact your not BSing Jo but Like everyone said to you earleir, YOU NEED TO TALK TO SSP AND GINTANI and get this crap sorted! Put your foot down or up someones ass!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        I know for a fact your not BSing Jo but Like everyone said to you earleir, YOU NEED TO TALK TO SSP AND GINTANI and get this crap sorted! Put your foot down or up someones ass!
        I was at the shop and they wanted to show me in person so I would not later wonder why I am getting charges I did not expect.

        This was all supposed to be done a long time ago by SSP...
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        lol, I don't even know what to say.

        We'll wait till you say its done Click here to enlarge
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        thats crazy they didn't even get fitment right from the start? i am glad i didn't pull the trigger on the pan and the clutches.
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        I hope they rectify this issue already. I have a few DCT cars that could benefit from this upgrade and Im getting impatient lol
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        How's the exterior and the interior look? 2 years in garages makes them $#@!ty.
      1. George Smooth's Avatar
        George Smooth -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I was at the shop and they wanted to show me in person so I would not later wonder why I am getting charges I did not expect.

        This was all supposed to be done a long time ago by SSP...
        You lucky you so young because if you where a bit older this has "HAVING A STROKE" written all over it. My nerves would be shot.
      1. inter1032's Avatar
        inter1032 -
        wow.....
      1. Jimefam's Avatar
        Jimefam -
        Damn just when you think things can't get anymore absurd they do! If they couldn't get a simple pan to fit I'd be very worried about the state of your dct. What a crappy company SSP has turned out to be.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        How's the exterior and the interior look? 2 years in garages makes them $#@!ty.
        Look fine, nothing a nice detail can't take care of.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
        Damn just when you think things can't get anymore absurd they do! If they couldn't get a simple pan to fit I'd be very worried about the state of your dct. What a crappy company SSP has turned out to be.
        I'm not going that far I just really don't understand the pan issue and the missing parts.
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm not going that far I just really don't understand the pan issue and the missing parts.
        I don't think you're alone on this issue.