• DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.





































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        So you have experience driving you car with the current setup? Please share!!!
        I have experience with supercharged M3's and Stage 3 M3's.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        Joe for what it is worth I actually support you on this thread but whilst I know you don't care when your car is done, you should not be giving any stick on how fast your car is until it runs.
        It's already run pretty fast the way it was. I think I have an educated opinion.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Yes, Joe is going to be very very quiet when he realzes what is going on with our CLKs. I enjoy watching him talk and digging his own grave lol.Little does he know how high the bar has been raised.

        If you can make Shift Sector that would be awesome. And keep me posted on what we discussed last night, if you can get it for $100k you are stealing it, $120-$125k is fair market value for that car. Good luck!
        Whatever man, take them to whatever level you feel you need to. I just have a lowly M3 that obviously will be slow.
      1. inter1032's Avatar
        inter1032 -
        has it been started yet?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inter1032 Click here to enlarge
        has it been started yet?
        Trust me, I'll update you when I know.
      1. lughed's Avatar
        lughed -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Yes, Joe is going to be very very quiet when he realzes what is going on with our CLKs. I enjoy watching him talk and digging his own grave lol.Little does he know how high the bar has been raised.
        I guess im just stiring the pot but have you guys thought about what could actually really be going on with Sticky's car? There has been alot of secrecy and you guys could be digging your own graves. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lughed Click here to enlarge
        I guess im just stiring the pot but have you guys thought about what could actually really be going on with Sticky's car? There has been alot of secrecy and you guys could be digging your own graves. Click here to enlarge
        They have no clue.

        What's up haters?

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      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        They have no clue.

        What's up haters?

        http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...9f0a0c_7-1.jpg
        Wow! A motor that does not run sitting on a stand, I am so impressed. Pretty much assumed that that is were the motor is at.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lughed Click here to enlarge
        I guess im just stiring the pot but have you guys thought about what could actually really be going on with Sticky's car? There has been alot of secrecy and you guys could be digging your own graves. Click here to enlarge
        Call me when Sticky is making north of 1000 who because that is what he is going to Newsroom run with me. I personally don't think anyone can squeeze that kind of power out of the N65 based on displacement alone. I don't care what size blower he puts on it or what size pulley because the faster he spins it the hotter it will get. If I had to guess I would say he is going to break out a car putting down 800whp.

        Speaking of secrecy, you have no clue what has been going on behind the scenes at Weistec and I promise it is Nigeria than whatever is going on over at Gintani .
      1. ajm8127's Avatar
        ajm8127 -
        Autocorrect is a $#@!.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ajm8127 Click here to enlarge
        Autocorrect is a $#@!.
        LMAO.... $#@!ing Nigerians got Sticky car in an internet scam

        Autocorrect does suck, it sucks so bad that when you type in Autocorrect it changes it to airport
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Wow! A motor that does not run sitting on a stand, I am so impressed. Pretty much assumed that that is were the motor is at.
        Yep slow POS on a stand with nothing getting done, junk and whatnot.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Call me when Sticky is making north of 1000 who because that is what he is going to Newsroom run with me. I personally don't think anyone can squeeze that kind of power out of the N65 based on displacement alone. I don't care what size blower he puts on it or what size pulley because the faster he spins it the hotter it will get. If I had to guess I would say he is going to break out a car putting down 800whp.

        Speaking of secrecy, you have no clue what has been going on behind the scenes at Weistec and I promise it is Nigeria than whatever is going on over at Gintani .
        It's an S65. And based on displacement? There are 3.0 liter motors making well over 1000. What are you talking about?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's an S65. And based on displacement? There are 3.0 liter motors making well of 1000. What are you talking about?
        let me know when you are reconfirm this thing up over 9000 rpm, those 3.0 motors are noting like yours. So you are saying you are going to putting down 1000whp?
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        lol, back at you.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        let me know when you are reconfirm this thing up over 9000 rpm, those 3.0 motors are noting like yours. So you are saying you are going to putting down 1000whp?
        I feel like I'm talking to someone who really should be doing more reading.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I feel like I'm talking to someone who really should be doing more reading.
        I do plenty of reading....you are compatible comparing apples and oranges. Answer the $#@!ing questions smart ass, are you saying your car will be making 1000whp?????
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Your deflection tactics suck! I love How you throw irrelevant $#@! into the conversation. I know what is going on with your car, I know what happens to the motor the last time they tried to run it. I know more than you think
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Your deflection tactics suck! I love How you throw irrelevant $#@! into the conversation. I know what is going on with your car, I know what happens to the motor the last time they tried to run it. I know more than you think
        do tell
      1. Black Sheep's Avatar
        Black Sheep -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        They have no clue.

        What's up haters?

        http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...9f0a0c_7-1.jpg

        That your original motor or the 2nd one?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        do tell
        I prefer to watch Sticky shuck and jive around the truth and make excuses for the delays and bring up irrelevant $#@! to try to distract everyone. Perfect example, the photo he posted of a motor on a stand lol, that is supposed to impress us? Is that supposed to satisfy everyone's curiosity that has been tuned into this thread for 38 months? Oh, great, Sticky posted a photo of some motor on a stand....the build must be done. WTF?????? He Still will not say if it will be started this week, all he says is it will be started when it's started.....no $#@!? You think? It is just comical at this point.