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      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.






































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 2372 Comments
      1. Twinturbom3's Avatar
        Twinturbom3 -
        Sticky,

        I started to think that you dont own a E92 M3.

        No news, no good news, no photos, no nothing.

        Whatever is missing could have been repaired, modified or cured during this 1-2 years of time.

        I was able to install a custom made auto transmission and control it with the stand alone in less than 3 months time.
      1. SSO95's Avatar
        SSO95 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky,

        I started to think that you dont own a E92 M3.

        No news, no good news, no photos, no nothing.

        Whatever is missing could have been repaired, modified or cured during this 1-2 years of time.

        I was able to install a custom made auto transmission and control it with the stand alone in less than 3 months time.
        burrrrrrillliance.
      1. PEI330Ci's Avatar
        PEI330Ci -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        He was just saying he read about the car being wrapped up in another thread. There is only 1 build thread.
        Ah...OK. I remember back in September some comments about the car being done for the Shiftsector event....that's why I was asking.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
        Sticky,

        I started to think that you dont own a E92 M3.

        No news, no good news, no photos, no nothing.

        Whatever is missing could have been repaired, modified or cured during this 1-2 years of time.

        I was able to install a custom made auto transmission and control it with the stand alone in less than 3 months time.
        You're a retard.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PEI330Ci Click here to enlarge
        Ah...OK. I remember back in September some comments about the car being done for the Shiftsector event....that's why I was asking.
        Yes, they didn't quite finish in time and car needs to be broken in, some lines to be run, etc.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You're a retard.
        Retard or not he has a legitimate point....
      1. Twinturbom3's Avatar
        Twinturbom3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You're a retard.
        the fact that you are the boss does not give you the right to insult.

        2 years of time and a non working e92 m3, this is not acceptable.

        if it was a turbo e92 m3 project I would respect as it would be one off a kind.

        but its one of the many supercharged e90 m3s out there and struggling to get ready.

        I put a custom auto tranny, then started controlling pectel and its one off a kind and it did last lessss than 3 months.
        none of my processed were P&P. Had to fabricate my own bell housing, own torque converter covers, custom made trans cooler, lines....harness built for pectel.....

        And all done in 3 months...

        Thats why I wonder, do you really possess a M3 E92?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Retard or not he has a legitimate point....
        No he doesn't.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
        the fact that you are the boss does not give you the right to insult.

        2 years of time and a non working e92 m3, this is not acceptable.

        if it was a turbo e92 m3 project I would respect as it would be one off a kind.

        but its one of the many supercharged e90 m3s out there and struggling to get ready.

        I put a custom auto tranny, then started controlling pectel and its one off a kind and it did last lessss than 3 months.
        none of my processed were P&P. Had to fabricate my own bell housing, own torque converter covers, custom made trans cooler, lines....harness built for pectel.....

        And all done in 3 months...

        Thats why I wonder, do you really possess a M3 E92?
        Mert, just stop typing already.

        No I don't posses an M3, I just pretend I do. Maybe I need to start a farm with chickens and then I can do what you do oh grand master of all that is BMW modification.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        No he doesn't.
        Yes he does. And its turkeys,not chickens lmao! Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Yes he does. And its turkeys,not chickens lmao! Click here to enlarge
        Pretty sure it's chickens. Either way it's poultry of some sort.

        And no he doesn't. There's tons of photos and info in this thread so sorry his post doesn't make sense comparing this build to his automatic build as if that is relevant somehow. And another thing, motor is in, sc is in, it's pretty much ready to go so not sure what he means about no news or no good news. Apparently you are just agreeing with him blindly.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        I still dont see a post from you stating the car is in your posession,when I see that post then I will believe the car is finished 100%. My doubts arent if you own the car as Im positive you do,I was agreeing with his opinion on the timeframe of your build.
        I dont have the inside info or the whole story as to why its not done but I do remember reading somewhere around 3-4weeks ago that the car would be ready next week..which would have been 2-weeks or so ago. I dont understand why you get so defensive when people question the timeframe,they are simply posting their own opinion about the subject.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        I still dont see a post from you stating the car is in your posession,when I see that post then I will believe the car is finished 100%.
        I never said the car was 100% finished.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        My doubts arent if you own the car as Im positive you do,I was agreeing with his opinion on the timeframe of your build.
        Who cares about the timeframe? His point makes no sense as it isn't the same trans or build, it's a simpler/older car he is referring to.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        I dont have the inside info or the whole story as to why its not done but I do remember reading somewhere around 3-4weeks ago that the car would be ready next week..which would have been 2-weeks or so ago. I dont understand why you get so defensive when people question the timeframe,they are simply posting their own opinion about the subject.
        I'm not getting defensive I'm saying Mert is an idiot and that you blindly agreed with him incorrectly. You obviously aren't familiar with his history.

        Secondly, the targeted date was the Shift S3ctor event which unfortunately I just missed.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I never said the car was 100% finished.
        Please show me where I stated that you said your car is 100% finished;you cant cause I never said that.



        Who cares about the timeframe? His point makes no sense as it isn't the same trans or build, it's a simpler/older car he is referring to.
        He pointed out your build is taking too long,I agreed. Its an opinion.



        I'm not getting defensive I'm saying Mert is an idiot and that you blindly agreed with him incorrectly. You obviously aren't familiar with his history.

        Secondly, the targeted date was the Shift S3ctor event which unfortunately I just missed.
        I know the history,Ive followed the threads when he popped in here last year&posted and was brought up to speed on why people dont like him. I agreed with his opinion that your car should have been completed already;its my opinion therefore it simply cannot be incorrect as you imply. I dont tell you your opinion is incorrect as that is absurd.

        So to avoid anymore drivel from either of us,when is the car scheduled for delivery? If you dont have an answer thats fine;Im NOT trolling/baiting..I am asking a sincere question.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        I agreed with his opinion that your car should have been completed already;its my opinion therefore it simply cannot be incorrect as you imply. I dont tell you your opinion is incorrect as that is absurd.
        It isn't absurd to tell someone their opinion is wrong. Ok, in your opinion it should be done. Good for you, go do it faster.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        So to avoid anymore drivel from either of us,when is the car scheduled for delivery? If you dont have an answer thats fine;Im NOT trolling/baiting..I am asking a sincere question.
        My sincere answer is I don't have a set date and frankly I'm tired of people asking. When it's done.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Awesome news!!!
        And I would be tired too if people were asking me constantly over the course of 2.5yrs when my build would be finished. Prolly got old after the 1st year or so. Definitely after the 2nd year came&went. Maybe it will be done by the 3rd year anniversary which is soon approaching?Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Awesome news!!!
        And I would be tired too if people were asking me constantly over the course of 2.5yrs when my build would be finished. Prolly got old after the 1st year or so. Definitely after the 2nd year came&went. Maybe it will be done by the 3rd year anniversary which is soon approaching?Click here to enlarge
        That's you. It's my car, my time, my money, I'm not too concerned. It's a project car.

        I'm tired of people being "concerned" about my project when it has nothing to do with them. It really isn't concerned, people just want to insult the length of time as if it has anything to do with them or as if they are doing anything of this caliber on this platform.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Bingo!
        But its you too,otherwise you wouldnt have said youre getting tired of hearing it. We all know your sick of people asking you if its done yet,thats why I posted if I were in your shoes Id be sick of hearing it too. You can twist it anyway you want.
        Dude,they built the Freedom Tower in NYC in less time then your car build. Think of the comparison: a skyscraper in downtown Manhattan was built faster then your car. Im positive they ran into some issues along the way that needed to be solved before proceeding,if they can do it so can you lol.Thats an amazing accomplishment! Or not really.Click here to enlarge
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        It takes less time to travel to mars and back than it takes to build Sticky's car. Just sayin'...
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
        It takes less time to travel to mars and back than it takes to build Sticky's car. Just sayin'...
        LOL! Maybe he should get the NASA rocket scientists who built the lunar explorer to figure out the transmissionClick here to enlarge