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    • DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.





































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by s62 Click here to enlarge
        Who is doing it for Gintani?
        They are doing it but have their own sources for certain things like anyone else.
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        So the car is back in one piece, just waiting for the DCT programming and good to go?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DarkPhantom Click here to enlarge
        So the car is back in one piece, just waiting for the DCT programming and good to go?
        It's waiting on something else.
      1. Autobahn335i's Avatar
        Autobahn335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's waiting on something else.
        On what? God's blessing?? Damn we want to see that car moving!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        You think I don't?
      1. DavidV's Avatar
        DavidV -
        I have all but given up on this project.
        All the things that these companies are miticulously doing but apparently do not hold on memorysticks.
        Alll the handmade lines and the smart placing of coolers that can not be seen on pictures for no pictures are posted, all the other now no longer mentioned secret delaying project details that can not be spoken off, it all got the better of me.
        This car will be a young classic if it ever leaves Gintani.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You think I don't?
        By now, yes I do, and probably a lot of people with me think this.
        I want to see some progress other than words and requests for patience.
        2,5 years ago when this build and thread started it was packed with pictures.
        Last pictures in this "build" thread are on page 36!!, from half a year ago.
        Apparently nothing worth showing has happened since then. It's all talk and delaying.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I think you are being a bit ridiculous considering this isn't your car.

        Ya, I'm sure you want it done faster than I do.

        I don't care how long it takes. Your comments aren't helping complete it. What, I'm supposed to go picket outside the shop? It is getting done. IT'S DONE WHEN IT'S DONE.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Sticky we need some new pics bro to go along with all the new parts and work Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        There are no new pics to share for now. When I have them I will share. Not like I don't.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There are no new pics to share for now. When I have them I will share. Not like I don't.
        Bro, Are they not taking pics of the custom parts their installing on the car? I love taking pics of all the parts i install on customers cars wether they be new or old. Taking a couple of pics should be good for the promotion of these new products etc.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        Bro, Are they not taking pics of the custom parts their installing on the car? I love taking pics of all the parts i install on customers cars wether they be new or old. Taking a couple of pics should be good for the promotion of these new products etc.
        I'd like pics from them but I don't have any to post. When it's done there will be more than enough content. Until then, just be positive. I'm sick of people running their mouths who aren't doing anything.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'd like pics from them but I don't have any to post. When it's done there will be more than enough content. Until then, just be positive. I'm sick of people running their mouths who aren't doing anything.
        Bro, When have I not been positive? Always positive cos I know how projects like these go. I was just saying pics would be nice as many of us are curious/interested to see the modded parts etc.

        All in good time I guess....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 0-60Motorsports Click here to enlarge
        Bro, When have I not been positive? Always positive cos I know how projects like these go. I was just saying pics would be nice as many of us are curious/interested to see the modded parts etc.

        All in good time I guess....
        Not referring to you just generally.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        I for one, want to thank Sticky for being the first to push the DCT performance mods forward."To go where no man has gone before". Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        I for one, want to thank Sticky for being the first to push the DCT performance mods forward."To go where no man has gone before". Click here to enlarge
        Appreciated, thank you.
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'd like pics from them but I don't have any to post. When it's done there will be more than enough content. Until then, just be positive. I'm sick of people running their mouths who aren't doing anything.
        You're being a dickhead. You put all your $#@! out there on the internet where a fool knows theres lots of idiots then get mad when you get people running their mouths. Thats like putting your candy in a bowl on halloween with a message that says please take one and then getting pissed when you see the bowl knocked on the ground completely pilfered ten minutes later.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
        You're being a dickhead. You put all your $#@! out there on the internet where a fool knows theres lots of idiots then get mad when you get people running their mouths. Thats like putting your candy in a bowl on halloween with a message that says please take one and then getting pissed when you see the bowl knocked on the ground completely pilfered ten minutes later.
        Pretty freaking stupid considering all the updates that have already been posted showing this is a build process over time. Not like I am withholding updates. You have no choice but to be patient so instead of acting like a brat on Halloween demanding candy you can simply wait.
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Pretty freaking stupid considering all the updates that have already been posted showing this is a build process over time. Not like I am withholding updates. You have no choice but to be patient so instead of acting like a brat on Halloween demanding candy you can simply wait.
        I know your not talking to me youngster, cuz I don't give a $#@! about your car. Just saying your a general disrespectful dickhead. If you put your business on the internet for everyone to see you're going to get retarded responses so don't be surprised.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
        I know your not talking to me youngster, cuz I don't give a $#@! about your car. Just saying your a general disrespectful dickhead. If you put your business on the internet for everyone to see you're going to get retarded responses so don't be surprised.
        I'm disrespectful by doing what? Telling you to be patient? You're the one throwing out insults so take your comments about being a dickhead and apply them to your own post. Thanks.

        Very good point on retarded responses.
      1. klipseracer's Avatar
        klipseracer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm disrespectful by doing what? Telling you to be patient? You're the one throwing out insults so take your comments about being a dickhead and apply them to your own post. Thanks.

        Very good point on retarded responses.
        Where have I demanded any actual responses from your thread? They are all to get a rise out of you. The only legitimate question I have ever asked you here is regarding the DCT and not because I give a crap about your car, because that transmission is of interest to me. Telling me to be patient for something I'm not waiting for is blind and yes, you're being disrespectful.