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    • BMW faking it - The new BMW F10 M5 features synthetic motor sounds through the audio system to enhance engine noise

      Does anyone remember when M motors provided enough noise on their own? BMW is pumping synthetic engine noise into the cabin through the speaker system to the front and the back so everyone can hear what the motor is supposed to sound like. We like quiet cabins as well as engine sounds but this is a bit absurd. There is a real problem when a BMW M5 has to fake its engine noise. What is next? Different engine modes so you can pretend you have an F1 car or even fake blow off valve sounds to look cool to the kids?

      BMW says the synthetic engines sounds are "an even more direct reminder of their car's performance." We kind of prefer for our engine to be a reminder of our car's performance, not the stereo. BMW, what the hell?





      This article was originally published in forum thread: BMW faking it - The new BMW F10 M5 features synthetic motor sounds through the audio system to enhance engine noise started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        You have to be an ultimate BMW fanboy to defend a decision like this.
        This is indefensible.
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmwsport Click here to enlarge
        Read the engineer's description on how the engine won't sound like a AMG motor due to the more efficient cross manifold design..effectively smoothing out the exhaust pulsations and aggression. Question is would you rather have a meaner sounding E60 M5 or a faster, more efficient and quieter new M5. Some would rather have a faster,quieter car than a slower, louder car. Just depends on your priorities.
        The new M5 already sounds pretty great. We've seen plenty of videos of its exhaust note (from outside) so we know the engine already produces a satisfying sound. Some of us wish it was louder, yes, but the way to do this is by having less sound dampening or a louder exhaust or a carbon intake system instead of thick plastic...having the speakers make fake engine noises like I'm playing a videogame is absolutely retarded.

        I'm being perfectly serious here, if you can't turn this feature off I would absolutely not consider the new M5. I'm sure you will be able to turn it off, but that's how seriously I feel about such an absurd system. Who the hell is running ///M these days?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        Who the hell is running ///M these days?
        People concerned with the bottom-line and nothing else.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        having the speakers make fake engine noises like I'm playing a videogame is absolutely retarded.
        Equating the feature to a video game is a great way to put it.
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        this is pretty ridiculous as many have stated. it reminds me of the mk.5 gti (my buddy's got one), they have what's called a 'noise pipe', which is basically a giant boost leak that channels the air into the cabin to give it more of a turbo sound. according to him, this can be deleted by modifying it/swapping it to a tiguan pipe, which has no air channeled into the cabin (through the a/c vents). $#@!ing pathetic. i agree with sticky, if they want it to sound louder than it is, make a cut-off valve. they probably didn't go that route due to emissions lol.
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        I'm $#@!ing speechless. WTF!!!! This almost sounds like a joke. How can they do this to an M car? Just insane. I would be ashamed to have such feature in a car like the M5, or any M car for that matter. Ricer $#@!.....
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        soon they will have a menu of different engine sound you can choose from inside the cabin, and the car will actually only have a 20 hp electric motor. This will be our future.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        soon they will have a menu of different engine sound you can choose from inside the cabin, and the car will actually only have a 20 hp electric motor. This will be our future.
        I want my engine to sound like this:

      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        It can sound like whatever you want, now that we have this new amazing feature.

        I actually want my engine to play "Michael Jackson - I'm Bad" when I go WOT.


        EDIT: And when Vanos kicks in I get rick rolled and Rick Astley starts to play... LOL OWNED.
      1. Steveo's Avatar
        Steveo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        They should simply do it naturally with an electric exhaust switch that will open up the real sound instead of faking it. Porsche does this.
        As does Ford on the new GT.
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Steveo Click here to enlarge
        As does Ford on the new GT.
        BMWs have this, corvettes have this, audi has this etc... basically everyone, it works fine. Why $#@! it up?
      1. singletrack's Avatar
        singletrack -
        Someone needs to hack the coding/sound file and change it to fart noises.I would not buy an M5 unless this could be disabled and/or I already knew how to code it out.
      1. P31-C63's Avatar
        P31-C63 -
        This is purely insane!
        Unless you can download an AMG sound track! Click here to enlarge

        I can't believe they would do this on an M car--so stupid.
        What enthusiast would think this is a good thing?
        I agree, put some sweat exhaust on it and call it a day--stupid marketing fags!!
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        this is pretty ridiculous as many have stated. it reminds me of the mk.5 gti (my buddy's got one), they have what's called a 'noise pipe', which is basically a giant boost leak that channels the air into the cabin to give it more of a turbo sound. according to him, this can be deleted by modifying it/swapping it to a tiguan pipe, which has no air channeled into the cabin (through the a/c vents). $#@!ing pathetic. i agree with sticky, if they want it to sound louder than it is, make a cut-off valve. they probably didn't go that route due to emissions lol.
        Allowing more of the engine's natural engine note to bypass the sound dampening and enter the cabin where I can enjoy it is fine. It's better than fine, it's a pretty sweet idea. I've got a few buddies with MkV and VI GTIs and I've driven a couple of the new Mustang 5.0s and basically you can hear the engine more clearly while having a car that has less tire and road noise during daily use.

        Having the speakers fake the engine noise is completely retarded, and it's not a microphone amplifying the real noise as some have thought, the press release clearly indicates that this is software trying to figure out what the car should sound like based on how you're driving and then cueing up sound samples.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Here's a review from autocar.. They mention that it's a bit too silent inside, guess they haven't found the button you guys are talking about...
      1. z3speed4me's Avatar
        z3speed4me -
        Hope nobody cracks a speaker...
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        What type of speakers we are talking about? if it's Bang&Olufsen then i wouldn't mind having them in my car.
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        alpinedevil335 -
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Check this out, when they tested the system in a Mini they offered 4 sound modes to make your engine sound like 4 different motors. No, I'm not making this $#@! up:

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      1. boostaholic's Avatar
        boostaholic -
        In all honesty i think the new m5 is so quiet and smooth with alot of sounding detonation around the cabin. I think BMW did this was to give there customers a grin because of how the sound control mimics the exhaust for probably good reasons. 90% of the people that not afford this car. So the typical buyer of an m5 is probably elderly men and doesnt want a loud exhuast and BMW came up with the next best thing. Also, what if you have clients riding with you while you are discussing future business plans and such. In this case just turn off the engine noise option and you have a refined, civilized, luxory car that I can take my investors around as well. After your business is complete turn that sound audio on and go have some fun with it. But I do agree being 27 years old Im definently putting exhaust on my new one that should be here pretty soon. I cant wait to take delivery of this monster!!!