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      What is going on at BMW? This is an unsubstantiated rumor based on a magazine that got a hold of some internal BMW documents showing the M550 diesel. This would be the first ever diesel M car. As the X in the name on the document states, this would likely be an AWD diesel variant. Not all that surprising considering an all wheel drive M5 was already confirmed. This may be the car BMW was referring to when they stated the intention to produce an all wheel drive M5 model.

      The diesel engine would have less power than the M5 at around 400 but torque would be in the 553 pound-foot range. This would also be a tri-turbo 3.0 liter 6 cylinder motor. This motor may find its way into an X variant as well as the 7. It is also entirely possible that this will be the motor for the next generation M3. Things just keep getting wackier and wackier at BMW, eh?






      This article was originally published in forum thread: 550i gets a Diesel variant? started by Ronin View original post
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      1. dzenno@PTF's Avatar
        dzenno@PTF -
        there you go with high revving m motors...d-o-n-e
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        What is the reason Diesel is more expensive in the US? I don't get it.
        For some reason, it's taxed higher. I haven't been able to flush out the specifics as to why, though...in recent times, it's been ridiculously more expensive than premium, but when I bought my d, diesel was cheaper than 87.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        For some reason, it's taxed higher. I haven't been able to flush out the specifics as to why, though...in recent times, it's been ridiculously more expensive than premium, but when I bought my d, diesel was cheaper than 87.
        Yup, there are higher federal excise taxes placed on diesel fuel compared to standard gasoline. Also lack of supply adds to prices. The refineries tend to produce more gas because of the demand. Less supply of diesel naturally drives up prices. Also the cost of producing low sulfur diesel has been passed on to the consumer.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        Another article:

        The “550? badge seems to point to the use of the new Tri-Turbo diesel engine that will power the 2012 X6 xDrive50d and 750d limousine. The new power unit retains its inline-six architecture with 3.0 liter displacement and three turbochargers. The power of this engine will peak around the 400 horsepower mark.

        The diesel powerplant can be positioned in a way as an alternative to the top 550i model and its 407 horsepower. The M Sport package featured in models possibly sports slightly different design cues to further distinguish the M550d from the “regular” 5er M Sport.

        We expect the new tri-turbo diesel engine to debut next month at the Frankfurt Auto Show in all variants we reported on before: X6, 6 and 7 Series. It remains unknown at the moment whether the new engine can be homologated for the US, but European customers will get to enjoy them starting in Spring 2012.

        http://www.autospies.com/news/BMW-M5...-diesel-66058/
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        Damn who cares about the price of DIESEl Im paying $3.70 a gallon here in Puerto Rico that is we sell gas and DIESEL by the liter anyway. Im not complaining since i have the best of both worlds economy of a 4 cyl and the torque of a V10 Woohoo!!Click here to enlargeWhen I retire in the next 13 yrs or so I might jump into one of them and leave my 335d to my sons LOLClick here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        For some reason, it's taxed higher. I haven't been able to flush out the specifics as to why, though...in recent times, it's been ridiculously more expensive than premium, but when I bought my d, diesel was cheaper than 87.
        Umm... so shouldn't someone do something about this?
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        The oil companies are the ones that have been $#@!ing with the prices...nobody seems to care, or have the inclination to fix the problem.....I mean, we almost hit $5/gallon...again, for no real reason.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        The oil companies are the ones that have been $#@!ing with the prices...nobody seems to care, or have the inclination to fix the problem.....I mean, we almost hit $5/gallon...again, for no real reason.
        I do not think we have the power to do anything about it.
      1. Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
        Puerto Rican 335d -
        Damn the X6 with 400 hp I imagine close to 600 lbs torque SHEIT!! thats crazy. My girlfriend loves the X6 and when I told her its coming in DIESEL Platform she almost had an orgasm LOL, she loves my 335d but her dream car to come DIESEL made her day and now she is seriously looking forwards to it. DAMN she might leave me, LOL, for the carClick here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d Click here to enlarge
        My girlfriend loves the X6 and when I told her its coming in DIESEL Platform she almost had an orgasm
        Does she have any sisters?
      1. Impulsoren's Avatar
        Impulsoren -
        So a label on a box of brake pads is considered an "internal document"? What I find problematic is this purported "M" car is going to have the same brakes as all of those other cars.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Impulsoren Click here to enlarge
        So a label on a box of brake pads is considered an "internal document"? What I find problematic is this purported "M" car is going to have the same brakes as all of those other cars.
        You raise a valid point. I'm just going by what was reported come to your own conclusion on if this is genuine.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        And, as of yesterday, the car has been confirmed, although not with the original badging that was reported:

        BMW will introduce a new high-performance diesel-powered 5-Series model next spring that will expand the German maker’s vaunted M division, TheDetroitBureau.com has confirmed, with the triple-turbo V-8 oil-burner set to also be used in a variety of other BMW products, likely including its X-series sport-activity vehicles.

        Rumors of the diesel M have been circulating for several weeks, but TheDetroitBureau.com has confirmed details with a variety of BMW sources who say the maker wants to prove out the potential of the high-mileage technology – taking advantage of a variety of new technologies, including the unusual triple-turbocharging system meant to eliminate even the most minor turbo lag.

        The new model is likely to get the unusual designation of either BMW 550dM or 550dXM, the latter referring to its all-wheel-drive system. With rare exception, most models produced by the Bavarian maker’s performance sub-brand flash the vaunted “M” first and foremost. But the alternative nomenclature would reflect the unusual powertrain under the hood of the 5-Series BMW.

        The 3.0-liter straight-six diesel will use a small turbo to instantly build boost for launch, two larger twin-scroll turbochargers then spooling up for higher-speed performance. The basic engine is the same as the current BMW 3.0-liter diesel but with significant modifications, including a new cylinder head. It will make use of a variety of advanced technologies, including direct injection and BMW’s Valvetronic system, designed to optimize the function of intake and exhaust engine valves.

        Sources tell TheDetroitBureau.com that the 550dM will deliver slightly less horsepower than the new gas-powered BMW M5, which makes 560 ponies. Final numbers will likely be in the 500 to 550 range. Torque, meanwhile, will well exceed the 500 lb-ft of the new M5, and could push north of 650 lb-ft.

        To handle those tire-spinning forces, “You have to go to all-wheel-drive,” explained one senior BMW official, “otherwise you’ll be spinning your tires all day.”

        An editors note posted has this to say about the confirmation, however:

        Editor’s note: The following story has been revised to make clear that BMW M Manager Brian Watts did not himself confirm the diesel program has been approved but is only under consideration. However, ranking BMW sources have repeated their confirmation that what is tentatively being called the BMW 550dXM will be publicly revealed in spring 2012.

        http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011...-applications/
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        triple-turbo V-8
        Click here to enlarge
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        Yeah, there's some conflicting information in the article, since they mention:

        triple-turbo V-8 oil-burner

        And then, later in the article, they say:

        The 3.0-liter straight-six diesel will use a small turbo to instantly build boost for launch, two larger twin-scroll turbochargers then spooling up for higher-speed performance. The basic engine is the same as the current BMW 3.0-liter diesel but with significant modifications, including a new cylinder head.
      1. DBFIU's Avatar
        DBFIU -
        All the magazine and sources are $#@!. They cant get their $#@! straight. I never believe any of it until the car actually comes out and I can pop the hood on the showroom floor.

        Also, what the $#@! is up with these names? 550d M sport, M550d, 550d M package, M550dM M sport M coupe M^2...


        $#@! it
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        And, as of yesterday, the car has been confirmed, although not with the original badging that was reported:

        BMW will introduce a new high-performance diesel-powered 5-Series model next spring that will expand the German maker’s vaunted M division, TheDetroitBureau.com has confirmed, with the triple-turbo V-8 oil-burner set to also be used in a variety of other BMW products, likely including its X-series sport-activity vehicles.

        Rumors of the diesel M have been circulating for several weeks, but TheDetroitBureau.com has confirmed details with a variety of BMW sources who say the maker wants to prove out the potential of the high-mileage technology – taking advantage of a variety of new technologies, including the unusual triple-turbocharging system meant to eliminate even the most minor turbo lag.

        The new model is likely to get the unusual designation of either BMW 550dM or 550dXM, the latter referring to its all-wheel-drive system. With rare exception, most models produced by the Bavarian maker’s performance sub-brand flash the vaunted “M” first and foremost. But the alternative nomenclature would reflect the unusual powertrain under the hood of the 5-Series BMW.

        The 3.0-liter straight-six diesel will use a small turbo to instantly build boost for launch, two larger twin-scroll turbochargers then spooling up for higher-speed performance. The basic engine is the same as the current BMW 3.0-liter diesel but with significant modifications, including a new cylinder head. It will make use of a variety of advanced technologies, including direct injection and BMW’s Valvetronic system, designed to optimize the function of intake and exhaust engine valves.

        Sources tell TheDetroitBureau.com that the 550dM will deliver slightly less horsepower than the new gas-powered BMW M5, which makes 560 ponies. Final numbers will likely be in the 500 to 550 range. Torque, meanwhile, will well exceed the 500 lb-ft of the new M5, and could push north of 650 lb-ft.

        To handle those tire-spinning forces, “You have to go to all-wheel-drive,” explained one senior BMW official, “otherwise you’ll be spinning your tires all day.”

        An editors note posted has this to say about the confirmation, however:

        Editor’s note: The following story has been revised to make clear that BMW M Manager Brian Watts did not himself confirm the diesel program has been approved but is only under consideration. However, ranking BMW sources have repeated their confirmation that what is tentatively being called the BMW 550dXM will be publicly revealed in spring 2012.

        http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011...-applications/
        This is incredibly interesting news.

        Honestly, I'd want one of these. If it has 500 horsepower for a diesel available with AWD then I do not know what to say. That is just awesome.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        All the magazine and sources are $#@!. They cant get their $#@! straight. I never believe any of it until the car actually comes out and I can pop the hood on the showroom floor.
        exactly, they are just rumors based on liquid $#@!. just for F10 M5 we had several rumors, from KERS and a new 8-Speed SMG to Twin turbo V10 and automatic gearbox.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        All the magazine and sources are $#@!. They cant get their $#@! straight. I never believe any of it until the car actually comes out and I can pop the hood on the showroom floor.

        Also, what the $#@! is up with these names? 550d M sport, M550d, 550d M package, M550dM M sport M coupe M^2...


        $#@! it
        Nobody really has their info straight but this is getting interesting. 500+ hp diesel, really?
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        I want one of these. I dont care if it has triple turbos or not. I will take a compound turbo 6 and call it a day.

        Rebates out the ass from the guv't.