• BMW to introduce Diesel M F10 550 variant? Triple turbo M550D

      What is going on at BMW? This is an unsubstantiated rumor based on a magazine that got a hold of some internal BMW documents showing the M550 diesel. This would be the first ever diesel M car. As the X in the name on the document states, this would likely be an AWD diesel variant. Not all that surprising considering an all wheel drive M5 was already confirmed. This may be the car BMW was referring to when they stated the intention to produce an all wheel drive M5 model.

      The diesel engine would have less power than the M5 at around 400 but torque would be in the 553 pound-foot range. This would also be a tri-turbo 3.0 liter 6 cylinder motor. This motor may find its way into an X variant as well as the 7. It is also entirely possible that this will be the motor for the next generation M3. Things just keep getting wackier and wackier at BMW, eh?





      This article was originally published in forum thread: 550i gets a Diesel variant? started by Ronin View original post
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      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        remove the M letter from it's name and i'll be fine.
      1. 654's Avatar
        654 -
        Getting 400hp out of a 3-liter diesel would be amazing... unbelievable... even to the extent that I will be looking forward to the official confirmation... However, if they can do it, props for BMW Click here to enlarge
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        I'd personally love to see a diesel M that pulls some of the numbers that some of the tunes out there have pulled. 400+ HP with more torque than the F10 M5, and potentially still 30+ MPG....I mean damn.

        Another article:

        According to German magazine MotorTalk, they have received a document from an inside source from BMW which reveals that the German carmaker is considering expanding the engine choices of its high performance M division. But what’s really important, this time, is that we’re talking about an absolute premiere, a diesel engine and not a petrol one, as you’d expect.

        The document confirms an upcoming debut of an M550dx model, which would be a premiere for BMW, being the first M model to be powered by a diesel engine. However, the M550dx will be placed below the M5 in the BMW range, its power output being lower than the current M division’s flagship.

        The engine BMW plans on using on the upcoming car is the highly anticipated tri-turbo 3.0-liter, which will also be used on several other BMW models. With an estimated power output between 354-hp and 405-hp and 750 Nm of torque, the engine could also power upcoming X6 M50dxDrive or the 750d.


        Considering all these, it’s safe to say that BMW’s new engine will be the most powerful diesel on the market today, especially with the Munich based carmaker not having to worry anymore about Audi’s V12, which was taken out of production several years ago. According to rumors, the new tri-turbo diesel engine will make its world debut next year, at the 2012 Geneva Motor Show.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        I'd personally love to see a diesel M that pulls some of the numbers that some of the tunes out there have pulled. 400+ HP with more torque than the F10 M5, and potentially still 30+ MPG....I mean damn.
        That's definitely something interesting and the specs are so awesome for a diesel engine, but for some people like me name is important.
        a 550d is really tempting but M550d? I'm not sure.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Most likely another diesel that will not come to the states.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        ! More power than a 6.7L Cummins straight six! Must rev to at least 5,000RPM! What a badass diesel, i'm excited!

        Compound turbo? Has to be pushing 20+psi...
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        That's definitely something interesting and the specs are so awesome for a diesel engine, but for some people like me name is important.
        a 550d is really tempting but M550d? I'm not sure.
        I won't disagree that BMW seems to be saturating the M name with all but another Z4 M and an X3 M, but providing the best of both worlds with the diesel (obscene power with above average gas mileage) may be the best marketing decision they could make. Think an M3 in HP range, torque higher than anything they currently offer (or plan to, based on what we know right now), and gas mileage better than any other M offering (of course I'm speculating here, but in my mind, that's common sense).

        There's a lot of merit to the idea, if it can be implemented, and if we ever see it here.
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Too bad diesel prices in Cali are well over $4/gallon. Making a car like this useless. I think I saw the other day $4.17/gallon, that is just stupid.
      1. Ronin's Avatar
        Ronin -
        I paid $3.99 (7 cents over premium) just a couple of days ago at 76.
      1. 654's Avatar
        654 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        That's definitely something interesting and the specs are so awesome for a diesel engine, but for some people like me name is important.
        a 550d is really tempting but M550d? I'm not sure.
        I don't care much about naming. Naming is marketing. However, I agree with you, it would be better to have shorter name without additional letters.
      1. 654's Avatar
        654 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Too bad diesel prices in Cali are well over $4/gallon. Making a car like this useless. I think I saw the other day $4.17/gallon, that is just stupid.
        That's low. The fuel prices are are so low in the US that when I'm 75 I need to drive some stupid electric cars because you guys have used up most of the oil Click here to enlarge
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
        That's low. The fuel prices are are so low in the US that when I'm 75 I need to drive some stupid electric cars because you guys have used up most of the oil Click here to enlarge
        The point is, in europe diesel is less expensive than petrol. Making diesel cars a lot more attractive. It is the other way around in the US for some reason, even though diesel is less expensive to produce.
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        Sounds great if its for a non-M model, or I guess it could be fine, if it was the same type of diesel engine found in the audi race car. Click here to enlarge
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        I found an article that claims that BMW applied for a trademark for the "M 50 d" (spacing seems a little off) - but that's what it claimed.Interesting to say the least. I guess the massive amount of torque and the gas mileage will be cool, but what about my 8000+ RPMs? Click here to enlargeCheers.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        I found a spy video of the new motor in testing:

        Pretty clever disguise, looks nothing like the renders!

        Wonder how much boost it'll take without blowing apart......
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        ^
        Some tree hugger would kill you if you drove that truck in Cali.

        I would love to sit at a light and shoot that exhaust all over a prius.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        ^
        Some tree hugger would kill you if you drove that truck in Cali.

        I would love to sit at a light and shoot that exhaust all over a prius.
        It made 1,175lb-ft on our dyne. I would pull a string of them, maybe 20 tied together with a steel cable, so they get smogged and destroyed at the same time.

        Then I would blame the "Cash for Clunkers" program.....
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        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        It made 1,175lb-ft on our dyne. I would pull a string of them, maybe 20 tied together with a steel cable, so they get smogged and destroyed at the same time.

        Then I would blame the "Cash for Clunkers" program.....
        serious LOL on the Cash for Clunkers... memories Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
        I won't disagree that BMW seems to be saturating the M name with all but another Z4 M and an X3 M, but providing the best of both worlds with the diesel (obscene power with above average gas mileage) may be the best marketing decision they could make. Think an M3 in HP range, torque higher than anything they currently offer (or plan to, based on what we know right now), and gas mileage better than any other M offering (of course I'm speculating here, but in my mind, that's common sense).

        There's a lot of merit to the idea, if it can be implemented, and if we ever see it here.
        I agree that this car and engine will be badass but why even use the letter M with it? Two M's in one model range at the same time? Just doesn't make sense.

        I also do not understand why they are not using a larger displacement diesel.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        The point is, in europe diesel is less expensive than petrol. Making diesel cars a lot more attractive. It is the other way around in the US for some reason, even though diesel is less expensive to produce.
        What is the reason Diesel is more expensive in the US? I don't get it.