• 10 second Garrett single turbo powered N54 (E92 335i)? Not so fast.

      We have been sitting on this story for quite some time but can no longer sit by and not say anything. For a while now, BimmerBoost had been the primary source of single turbo information coming from the user unfor who recently changed his username. His thread was one of the most viewed and rightfully so as N54 people want single turbo information. Things just started to get more and more odd as bold claims came from unfor such as posting a 10 second flat timeslip claiming it was from MIR with a Garrett professional driver and odd dyno charts that looked nothing like what an N54 motor should look like. We hate to tell you this folks, but his performance claims were all lies.


      We really liked unfor and we liked the support he gave the forum but we can't bite our tongues any longer. It does not matter who it is, we can not allow you all to be blatantly lied to by a kid seeking attention. The truth is what matters first and foremost. When the claims were made and the slip was posted, we contacted Garrett regarding their "pro" driver doing runs with this car as well as their involvement. The e-mails speak for themselves:

      Quote Originally Posted by Garrett
      Hello Joseph,

      I’d be interested to learn more about this as well. Garrett does not have any pro drivers on staff, so I think that there may be a bit of miscommunication going on. I was going to try and read the thread on your forum, but it is unfortunately set up so that only registered members can benefit from the information posted.

      If the slip is genuine, someone has a hot set up.
      Quote Originally Posted by Garrett
      Yeah, we’re mainly all just amateur drivers.

      We haven’t done any work that I’m aware of with a 335i directly.

      Now, this isn’t to say that the person isn’t using a Garrett turbo and certainly doesn’t exclude the possibility that it was a pro driver behind the wheel. They may be laying down some amazing Ľ mile runs, but we can’t take credit for direct involvement in the project outside of the possibility that we manufactured the turbo.
      Quote Originally Posted by Garrett
      Hi again,

      I can say with 100% certainty that it was no one that works here. The post is 75 pages long and I’m unable to find the specific post you reference below. The link just sends me to page 73. Our policy here is to not directly post on forums so I’m not sure how to approach this.

      If you’d like, we can do a bit more research to see if we can figure out who this person is. Can you help me figure out any information on the user? Opening pages reference a car being worked on at JE Import Performance. Is this the same car? Where was the race?

      How else can we address? My concern is that this user later posts false information about our company or product and is believed because he/she is seen as a “Garrett engineer”.

      Would a statement from Garrett help?
      Quote Originally Posted by Garrett
      Joseph,

      I read through a bit more. We have no engineers that traveled to Denver. They are making outrageous claims about being connected with us directly. The feeling I get is they are using that to give themselves credibility. We’ve seen it before on other forums – people sometimes feel the need to legitimize what they’re doing by dropping our name. It’s a bit flattering but at the same time concerning.

      I’m not sure where else to take it from here to be honest.
      Quote Originally Posted by Garrett
      “Awkward” is a good choice of words. We definitely appreciate you reaching out to us. Let us know if it gets too out of hand or if something really becomes too concerning.
      As you can see, Garrett has no ties to this project and no Garrett driver drove this car. As a matter of fact, when the "driver" supposedly posted it was the same IP as unfor. This was not mentioned until he was called on it and said the driver was at his house. Well, Garrett has no drivers in Denver and let's be real, who has pro drivers sitting at their personal computers posting on forums at a user's leisure?

      We can't allow claims to be me about Garrett that are unsubstantiated. They have nothing to do with this car and their name should not be dragged through the mud because someone wants to look cool to others on a forum. They are a professional company and as stated did not want to get involved in the posting but were concerned about their name being used. Garrett was not involved with this car and what this poster tried to pull should not reflect on Garrett in any way. Simply unfortunate their name was attached to this.

      If one needs more proof, the slip was claimed as being from MIR. Well, even the laziest person can check on Google to see that MIR slips do not look like what he posted. This is what a slip from MIR looks like:


      Obviously not a coincidence the slip is cut off to not show where it was stolen from. Also not a coincidence he removed it right after posting it so no one would catch on. Well, too late, as users took screenshots.

      The dynos are stolen/fake as well. One of the dynos posted was simply photoshopped from this dyno:http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=2931

      Unfor's dyno:


      The original:


      Clearly a poor photoshop to try to hide the evidence. This dyno he might have created himself:


      Wherever it came from, it clearly isn't legitimate. If that isn't enough proof, how about this:

      Quote Originally Posted by LostMarine
      So i called JE the other day, spoke to a guy, he gave me a conflicting story about unfors car, in that the fuel system is not up and running yet. They are about to install and see if everything works mechanially, and have not even started the tuning side yet....
      How was the car running 10 second passes when it wasn't even running? If you want to BS a time, don't start with a record nobody has gotten anywhere near. Just sloppy work overall but many bought into it.

      We are sorry to burst this bubble but we had to. We know this will likely mean unfor will never post here again. It also means any single turbo info that is legitimate from him will go to our competition and we will have to live with that. The correct information simply outweighs this fairy tale. That is not to say the car does not exist and that the single turbo is not being done. We honestly hope the car is completed and he is happy. We wish him the absolute best. We understand these projects are tough and don't always go as planned. Just don't bullshit us. He's a kid, he made a mistake, but anything he says or has said simply can not be trusted.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: 10 second Garrett single turbo powered N54 (E92 335i)? Not so fast. started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 163 Comments
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        i didnt think it was the boost, but rather the dme needs to see 2 different wgdc, and to fool the dme into thinking it still has 2
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        did you hear someone say something different? or i suppose, claim something different?
        Nope.
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        i didnt think it was the boost, but rather the dme needs to see 2 different wgdc, and to fool the dme into thinking it still has 2
        unfor told the community that the boost issue was not a problem, i specifically remember it. but what can we really believe from him now? and you're right about the wastegates too, afaik.

        my theory is that single turbos may work on specific pulls, from above x revs and whatever (which is why we saw that AR video), but it is not yet a daily drivable option, and to boot, the overall luxury that is BMW goes out the window, let alone the constant limps when trying to get some good torque in there. the n54 and dme are too finicky for a single imho. if you wanna go big single, go with the n55, my bet is it'll be easier.
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        This whole ordeal has just been so sad. Why would someone lie to so many people? Just makes no sense.....
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        unfor told the community that the boost issue was not a problem, i specifically remember it. but what can we really believe from him now? and you're right about the wastegates too, afaik.

        my theory is that single turbos may work on specific pulls, from above x revs and whatever (which is why we saw that AR video), but it is not yet a daily drivable option, and to boot, the overall luxury that is BMW goes out the window, let alone the constant limps when trying to get some good torque in there. the n54 and dme are too finicky for a single imho. if you wanna go big single, go with the n55, my bet is it'll be easier.
        yea, your probably right, a combination of both, and anything previously stated is probably not accurate
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        So what was real about him? that manifold looks pretty real to me.
      1. mazdaspeed6's Avatar
        mazdaspeed6 -
        can we get the pictures of the manifold/turbo setup and the fuel rail pictures on the first page sticky?
      1. joeyballs's Avatar
        joeyballs -
        This is truly Unforgivable
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        The hardware is real. That's about it.
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BattaM3 Click here to enlarge
        The hardware is real. That's about it.
        I guess that's a good thing.
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        Hardware is always easy part. Like this baller in a purple single turboed 540i

        After he tells me it's a highway killer. I find out all that nice hardware for a turbo setup had NO tune. Don't know how he drove. Car looked like Camron build it(show car I guess).
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        ^ How the car is driven without having a tune?
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        Don't know. I met him at VAC motorsports because he was looking for a tune/tuner.
        I didn't talk much because I knew he was lying from the start. Can't have a highkiller and no tune. The car had terrible mods. True baller and $$$ put into it.

        Google purple turbo 540i or something like that. I'll bet some pics and YouTube pop up. I'm on iPhone or I would post it. Maybe a crap basetune?
      1. Sorena's Avatar
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        No. It crazy purple. Lots of hamann parts. Suede purple inside,chrome wheels and a single
        turbo set. True ballermachine. Belongs in a rap video.
      1. Irishace's Avatar
        Irishace -
        Pure comedy.
      1. BattaM3's Avatar
        BattaM3 -
        Truth!!! ^^^
      1. Irishace's Avatar
        Irishace -
        You know what is really sad, the fact that his ProEFI got lost in the mail. Just IMAGINE the power he single snail setup would have had with it! One can only dream ...... err well
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Im gonna call JE and ask about the fueling tomorrow. if tuning is the problem, and a problem because of single BT, then the fueling should be a different matter..
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        if you wanna go big single, go with the n55, my bet is it'll be easier.
        This is my bet as well. N55 should get it faster and it should be easier.