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    • 10 second Garrett single turbo powered N54 (E92 335i)? Not so fast.

      We have been sitting on this story for quite some time but can no longer sit by and not say anything. For a while now, BimmerBoost had been the primary source of single turbo information coming from the user unfor who recently changed his username. His thread was one of the most viewed and rightfully so as N54 people want single turbo information. Things just started to get more and more odd as bold claims came from unfor such as posting a 10 second flat timeslip claiming it was from MIR with a Garrett professional driver and odd dyno charts that looked nothing like what an N54 motor should look like. We hate to tell you this folks, but his performance claims were all lies.


      We really liked unfor and we liked the support he gave the forum but we can't bite our tongues any longer. It does not matter who it is, we can not allow you all to be blatantly lied to by a kid seeking attention. The truth is what matters first and foremost. When the claims were made and the slip was posted, we contacted Garrett regarding their "pro" driver doing runs with this car as well as their involvement. The e-mails speak for themselves:

      As you can see, Garrett has no ties to this project and no Garrett driver drove this car. As a matter of fact, when the "driver" supposedly posted it was the same IP as unfor. This was not mentioned until he was called on it and said the driver was at his house. Well, Garrett has no drivers in Denver and let's be real, who has pro drivers sitting at their personal computers posting on forums at a user's leisure?

      We can't allow claims to be me about Garrett that are unsubstantiated. They have nothing to do with this car and their name should not be dragged through the mud because someone wants to look cool to others on a forum. They are a professional company and as stated did not want to get involved in the posting but were concerned about their name being used. Garrett was not involved with this car and what this poster tried to pull should not reflect on Garrett in any way. Simply unfortunate their name was attached to this.

      If one needs more proof, the slip was claimed as being from MIR. Well, even the laziest person can check on Google to see that MIR slips do not look like what he posted. This is what a slip from MIR looks like:


      Obviously not a coincidence the slip is cut off to not show where it was stolen from. Also not a coincidence he removed it right after posting it so no one would catch on. Well, too late, as users took screenshots.

      The dynos are stolen/fake as well. One of the dynos posted was simply photoshopped from this dyno:http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=2931

      Unfor's dyno:


      The original:


      Clearly a poor photoshop to try to hide the evidence. This dyno he might have created himself:


      Wherever it came from, it clearly isn't legitimate. If that isn't enough proof, how about this:

      How was the car running 10 second passes when it wasn't even running? If you want to BS a time, don't start with a record nobody has gotten anywhere near. Just sloppy work overall but many bought into it.

      We are sorry to burst this bubble but we had to. We know this will likely mean unfor will never post here again. It also means any single turbo info that is legitimate from him will go to our competition and we will have to live with that. The correct information simply outweighs this fairy tale. That is not to say the car does not exist and that the single turbo is not being done. We honestly hope the car is completed and he is happy. We wish him the absolute best. We understand these projects are tough and don't always go as planned. Just don't bullshit us. He's a kid, he made a mistake, but anything he says or has said simply can not be trusted.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: 10 second Garrett single turbo powered N54 (E92 335i)? Not so fast. started by Sticky View original post
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      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Se, heres the problem with procedures nuthuggers,whether they change their name as a vendor or not, and the shiv himself. They are prone to voice their elite and all knowing opinions after the fact. If they one it was na, why didn't he call it? Why did he send a v5 to is and they sent it back, why did he peter for weld about a fuel system? Actually, its much more likely that topgear solutions was behind it than.sticky. oasis I stated before, I've talked to Unfor many times, and overtime came from a north jersey #..do we know people that live in north jersey? I think so. My investigation is not over gents..
        lost marine aka super sleuth....im gonna call him this generations sherlock holmes Click here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Lol, its just too easy with a few $ and the right search sites Click here to enlarge
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Lol, its just too easy with a few $ and the right search sites Click here to enlarge
        having monies make just about anything easier.....well...i guess everything except for unfors single turbo....lolClick here to enlarge
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        LOL, you mean a fuel system ,nobody cares about the single Click here to enlarge
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        LOL, you mean a fuel system ,nobody cares about the single Click here to enlarge
        lol....yea the fuel....its always been the fuel...lol
      1. GG///M3's Avatar
        GG///M3 -
        why not add a boosta pump to the stock fuel pump?
      1. n54-5&3's Avatar
        n54-5&3 -
        Great summary. You should add that the second dyno came from another site too (you state that he may have created it himself). As pointed out in the original thread, it is a crop of the second dyno image shown in a 2009 post at another Scion site: http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174987
      1. Forcefed's Avatar
        Forcefed -
        odd dyno charts that looked nothing like what an N54 motor should look like.
        Thats because it was supposed to have a single turbo on it...
      1. Trevor008's Avatar
        Trevor008 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ah I see what you mean.

        Don't get it, why didn't he confront me here after already posting?
        Because that would give him negative attention here that would offset the positive fanboy attention he's searching for there maybe? Click here to enlarge
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        I spoke to him on the phone once, he seemed to be legitimately working on the project and had pertinent questions. But I was dubious of the track times claimed. You'd expect a video and more fan fare over a low 10 second pass like that. Hopefully the project gets done and we really see a low 10 second N54 some day...
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        I just want an explanation for the manifold/turbo pictures on the car and that fuel rail that bolts to the head.

        Those are obviously real, but they could possibly be to a different motor.

        And what ever happened to AR Design's project? They had pictures AND a video.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        I just want an explanation for the manifold/turbo pictures on the car and that fuel rail that bolts to the head.

        Those are obviously real, but they could possibly be to a different motor.

        And what ever happened to AR Design's project? They had pictures AND a video.
        You'd have to check with Andrew but the big hold up was tuning, nothing related to their hardware. I can't tune it with the JB4 (it would need a board mod I don't have time to make right now), CPE had other projects going and could not give it the attention it needed, and last I heard Vishnu was working with him on it. Not sure where that went. ESS also passed on it.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        You'd have to check with Andrew but the big hold up was tuning, nothing related to their hardware. I can't tune it with the JB4 (it would need a board mod I don't have time to make right now), CPE had other projects going and could not give it the attention it needed, and last I heard Vishnu was working with him on it. Not sure where that went. ESS also passed on it.
        Thank you for the very honest and informative reply Terry! We need to find the BMW DME engineers just to get a damn aftermarket turbo to work....

        Do you happen to know specifically what is happening between the DME and new turbo system that is holding things up?
      1. SSDD's Avatar
        SSDD -
        +1 Your candor is truly refreshing (and appreciated) after all of this
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        why not add a boosta pump to the stock fuel pump?
        Because it is a high pressure fuel pump to begin with.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        I spoke to him on the phone once, he seemed to be legitimately working on the project and had pertinent questions. But I was dubious of the track times claimed. You'd expect a video and more fan fare over a low 10 second pass like that. Hopefully the project gets done and we really see a low 10 second N54 some day...
        Exactly. A project is taking place, and the 10 second slip was really just too much for me. At that point this whole thing had to be popped. I wasn't the only one, pretty much everyone got suspicious after that just people bit their tongues because some had interests in it (like fuel being completed).

        I hope it gets done.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
        why not add a boosta pump to the stock fuel pump?
        we have low pressure, electrical, which ive done just that, but high pressure is mechanical,
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        Do you happen to know specifically what is happening between the DME and new turbo system that is holding things up?
        one of the main issues is the n54 dme needs to see ~7pounds before 3k revs. if it doesn't it limps. that feat will be hard to do with a large single unless you use nitrous to spool it, but even then, it may not be enough exhuast gas to spin a big single, unless the turbo had something similar to porsche's VTG.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
        one of the main issues is the n54 dme needs to see ~7pounds before 3k revs. if it doesn't it limps.
        Nobody has been able to tune around this?
      1. oddjob2021's Avatar
        oddjob2021 -
        not that i know of, did you hear someone say something different? or i suppose, claim something different?