• Singh Autosport claims they are first to tune as well as 100 hp gains on the 2011 CL63 AMG with the M157 twin turbo V8

      We aren't sure what to say as this has become a repeat pattern now with Singh. They are claiming they are the first tuner to tune the CL63 AMG in North America. Yet, the dyno provided is not a North American dyno. Somebody make sense of that. Also, Singh claims to have tuned a CL550 yet they are waiting for the car to adapt before putting it on the dyno. Huh? So no custom dyno tune? This all just does not make much sense and we would like to see some real proof.


      Quote Originally Posted by Singh Autosport
      2011 Mercedes CL63 AMG Twin Turbo Dyno Results
      We were the first company in North America to offer and perform this tune, tested on the most respected dyno in the industry 'Cartec Dyno'.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: Singh Autosport claims they are first to tune as well as 100 hp gains on the 2011 CL63 AMG with the M157 twin turbo V8 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. hooleyboy's Avatar
        hooleyboy -
        We've seen things like this before. What happens is... The tune manufacture in Europe develops the tune. Then the reseller of their software claims it as their own. Some tuners go as far to say this is for "their" customer in Europe. The truth is, these charts come from a number of places. Either from the tune manufacture themselves or from another shop that also is a dealer of the mfg's tunes. Its common place when a new car enters the tuning market to see Cartec Dyno charts being claimed as someone else's work. Sticky, Shoot me a email or message and I can show you side by side pictures where this also took place, when a new Mercedes tuning platform hit the market.

        Best Regards -Mike
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hooleyboy Click here to enlarge
        We've seen things like this before. What happens is... The tune manufacture in Europe develops the tune. Then the reseller of their software claims it as their own. Some tuners go as far to say this is for "their" customer in Europe. The truth is, these charts come from a number of places. Either from the tune manufacture themselves or from another shop that also is a dealer of the mfg's tunes. Its common place when a new car enters the tuning market to see Cartec Dyno charts being claimed as someone else's work. Sticky, Shoot me a email or message and I can show you side by side pictures where this also took place, when a new Mercedes tuning platform hit the market.

        Best Regards -Mike
        Yes, exactly, the European tuner developed the tune and it trickled down. This happens for basically everyone.

        So, what is the point of claiming first in North America when North America has very little if anything to do with the development? Secondly, how does one prove that? The original European dyno is not proof of anything in North America.

        Feel free to send me an e-mail, administrator@benzboost.com
      1. Jake@Eurocharged.com's Avatar
        Jake@Eurocharged.com -
        lol

        http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...il-pics-2.html

        post 32 back in january...

        oh and your typically right. There are a few ways of going about it, purchase a predone tune and resell, or purchase the maps so you can create your own if you are a shop that can do so. Maps typically come out before the tune itself.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jake@Eurocharged.com Click here to enlarge
        lol

        http://www.mbworld.org/forums/w211-a...il-pics-2.html

        post 32 back in january...

        oh and your typically right. There are a few ways of going about it, purchase a predone tune and resell, or purchase the maps so you can create your own if you are a shop that can do so. Maps typically come out before the tune itself.
        That was back in January of 2011... yep.

        I'm getting a bit sick of these claims he is making with no support.

        By the way, if you guys have tunes for these motors shoot me an e-mail with the deatails (dyno before/after, price) so I can put up an article on them!
      1. FLYING X5's Avatar
        FLYING X5 -
        I don't know anything about Singh, but sounds like another ASR... Sorry, had to say something... Sure they aren't connected? Where's the money trail (I know, not my smartest or worthwhile comment)
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FLYING X5 Click here to enlarge
        I don't know anything about Singh, but sounds like another ASR... Sorry, had to say something... Sure they aren't connected? Where's the money trail (I know, not my smartest or worthwhile comment)
        I'd have way more confidence in Singh than ASR. As I stated from back in the day when ASR announced the V10 twin turbo kits, I wouldn't trust them to tune a radio.