What is a Horsepower Freak? New promotional short film from HPF

I understand, but the S54 is getting very dated. Obviously that chassis can't handle all that raw power, they haven't even been able to get the car in the 10s. Sure they are fast as hell, but the traction is horrible. What will their next project be? N54? N55? Or maybe a different brand?

Originally Posted by leo985i

I understand, but the S54 is getting very dated.

The S54 is ahead of the N54 in a lot of ways. Frankly, it is a way a better motor and the N54 will never catch it.

Originally Posted by leo985i

Obviously that chassis can't handle all that raw power, they haven't even been able to get the car in the 10s. Sure they are fast as hell, but the traction is horrible. What will their next project be? N54? N55? Or maybe a different brand?

Yep, the chassis sucks for drag racing. The E92 is way better. However, from a roll the things will dust anything else out there and they have proven to be monsters on the track.

I think they will move to the N54/N55 next but who knows when that will be.

Originally Posted by Sticky

The S54 is ahead of the N54 in a lot of ways. Frankly, it is a way a better motor and the N54 will never catch it.

Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ

It's simply the truth. The S54 is at over 1000 whp, the N54 still has to figure out fueling to even get in the 600's. That is not to say the N54 is a bad motor but the S54 represents some of the best BMW Motor engineering in their history. I don't think you understand just how good it is.

one day i will have an S54 (meaning an E46 m3) and get to experience its greatness... atm i will deal with my m54...

on topic, not too shabby video... BOV on mytran's car sounds sick

Comparing the N54 to the S54 in terms of potential for huge numbers is ridiculous, the S54 has an iron block and revs a full thousand RPM more than the N54 so if you give it room to breathe and fit an appropriately large turbo there's no way the N54 could match it.

Basically, any amount of power you could make with the N54 (even after the aftermarket figures out fueling and other current issues with getting past 550rwhp) you can make a few hundred more with the S54.

Obviously this is without building either motor, you could build a K20 out of a Civic to make over a thousand horsepower if you really felt like it.

Originally Posted by Remonster

Comparing the N54 to the S54 in terms of potential for huge numbers is ridiculous, the S54 has an iron block and revs a full thousand RPM more than the N54 so if you give it room to breathe and fit an appropriately large turbo there's no way the N54 could match it.

Basically, any amount of power you could make with the N54 (even after the aftermarket figures out fueling and other current issues with getting past 550rwhp) you can make a few hundred more with the S54.

EXACTLY.

Real sick vid

Vid is def awesome

Fallon has been spamming this on like everyforum. saw it on the cobalt ss forum, GTI forum and more lmao. It is a pretty good vid. pretty sexy seeing her drive that beast of a car. Black hair ftw.

Originally Posted by fastgti69

Fallon has been spamming this on like everyforum. saw it on the cobalt ss forum, GTI forum and more lmao. It is a pretty good vid. pretty sexy seeing her drive that beast of a car. Black hair ftw.

Cobalt SS and GTI? Ugh, come on now...

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/08-10...-freak-253706/

Maybe she's following me around

Go for it man, you can have her all for yourself.

@2:20 *not actual grandmother (Lies)

This video has been spammed everywhere, and I mean everywhere.

I didn't mind putting it up at all as it is well done but does it really need to be spammed onto Mercedes 190E forums? Seriously? Who there is going to be wanting HPF anything?

Cobalt forums? VW forums? Ugh... marketing is one thing but forcing this down everyone's throat where it doesn't even belong will have the opposite effect of what you guys are looking for.

They are going money drunk......

what year did the s54 come out? 2001? lets see where the n54 is by 2016 any who i saw the video the other day, they did a good job on it

Originally Posted by Remonster

Comparing the N54 to the S54 in terms of potential for huge numbers is ridiculous, the S54 has an iron block and revs a full thousand RPM more than the N54 so if you give it room to breathe and fit an appropriately large turbo there's no way the N54 could match it.

Basically, any amount of power you could make with the N54 (even after the aftermarket figures out fueling and other current issues with getting past 550rwhp) you can make a few hundred more with the S54.

Obviously this is without building either motor, you could build a K20 out of a Civic to make over a thousand horsepower if you really felt like it.

Wait a second... don't you have to build a S54 to take a lot of boost? Last time I heard the S54 is relatively high compression and Port Injection so it can't take much cylinder pressure without detonation..... not to mention it is EXPENSIVE and a pain in the ass currently to get it ready.....


Prove to me that the maximum stress limit of the S54 is higher than the N54. Even then, does that alone make it a "Better" motor?

In my opinion, no.

Originally Posted by Sticky

This video has been spammed everywhere, and I mean everywhere.

I didn't mind putting it up at all as it is well done but does it really need to be spammed onto Mercedes 190E forums? Seriously? Who there is going to be wanting HPF anything?

Cobalt forums? VW forums? Ugh... marketing is one thing but forcing this down everyone's throat where it doesn't even belong will have the opposite effect of what you guys are looking for.

you also have to remember that most of their sales are from outside the M3 market. thats why they post it on alot of various places......i know what your saying why would they care about an m3 video on a cobalt forum, but it gets ppl to go to the website and maybe buy a few parts or at least keep it in mind the next time they need something.

Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ

Wait a second... don't you have to build a S54 to take a lot of boost? Last time I heard the S54 is relatively high compression and Port Injection so it can't take much cylinder pressure without detonation..... not to mention it is EXPENSIVE and a pain in the ass currently to get it ready.....


Prove to me that the maximum stress limit of the S54 is higher than the N54. Even then, does that alone make it a "Better" motor?

In my opinion, no.

The S54 even on stock internals has hit over 700 whp at 11.5:1 compression. How's that? Come on man, over 100 hp per liter motor with an 8k redline and iron block. It is the most highly awarded BMW motor in history.

No amount of time is ever going to do anything for the N54 vs. the S54. It is playing a never ending game of catch-up. To get the N54 to be as capable you have to basically try to turn it into an S54.

It honestly even close, the S54 is in another league, same with the S38.