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      Nothing shocking here folks but this is the official F10 BMW M5. It looks pretty much just like the concept. 20 inch wheels appear to be standard with Z rated tires. What we are hoping for with the photos out there now is that we can get the details on the good stuff. Such as the changes made to the motor, the new redline, the torque capacity of the new DCT transmission, etc.







































      This article was originally published in forum thread: Production BMW F10 M5 photos leaked - looks pretty much exactly like the concept M5 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        lol
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
        The m5 will not go around the ring much faster than the V, and if it does, it will be maybe a few seconds. Even that may be a stretch if you consider the panamera turbo does it in only 3 seconds faster than the V.
        Yup, I remember ready somewhere yesterday BMW "hopes" to break the 8 min mark. So I don't see it being a whole lot quicker around the ring than the CTS-V.
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        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        With the twin turbo V8 modability may actually be in the BMW's favor.
        Interested to see what tuning advantage the E63 has being over a full liter more in displacement.

        What turbos are being used on either engine?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Interested to see what tuning advantage the E63 has being over a full liter more in displacement.

        What turbos are being used on either engine?
        The S63 turbos are some kind of modified Garrett GT22's. On the M157 in the E63 I have no idea.

        The E63 with the performance package will have a significant advantage stock for stock but it's turbos are basically maxed at that point.
      1. Jimefam's Avatar
        Jimefam -
        Alot more to making power than just displacement, that being said the CTS-V is IMO the hands down winner in the performance category. Maybe not stock but as noted above IF it loses it won't be by much, however few people on a site like this care about stock as we like to mod and in that sense the V will smoke both the M5 and E63. Hell there are people making 800+ on V's right now and it will be along time before we see that out of either German car.
      1. alq80's Avatar
        alq80 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I realize this isn't about the CTS or M5 but I'm just really impressed with your use of the semicolon in your post. People rarely use it, I need to start incorporating it into my posts as well.
        LOL man you make funny comments sometimes. I do have to say though, regardless of performance, I actually think the end-all argument is that an M5 is a status symbol more than it is a pure driving machine. It is $#@!ing great, but people notice who is driving what these days Click here to enlarge
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        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alq80 Click here to enlarge
        I actually think the end-all argument is that an M5 is a status symbol more than it is a pure driving machine.
        This is true. Basically this whole segment is like that. Not exactly track cars, they are autobahn missiles.
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        Itsbrokeagain -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
        Alot more to making power than just displacement, that being said the CTS-V is IMO the hands down winner in the performance category. Maybe not stock but as noted above IF it loses it won't be by much, however few people on a site like this care about stock as we like to mod and in that sense the V will smoke both the M5 and E63. Hell there are people making 800+ on V's right now and it will be along time before we see that out of either German car.

        This is true. Apparently the transmissions are good for 1000hp before they need to be opened up for work...the 6MTs around 800ish...at that point I think the clutch would have to be some outrageous twin or triple disc clutch, which right there turns the car from a decent daily driver to weekend car only...you think I wanna get stuck in traffic with that? I have a hard time fighting myself if I bought one, whether it would be auto or manual..

        I got to drive my friends F10 550xi...and it is very nice....but for $920 a month lease I think I will pass. I could get a 535 and go with that, but working for a somewhat well known shop around these parts makes you want to have the biggest and best to show off your work. I might..and this is a big might, spring for the new F30 come this November. I had the E90 335 barely 2 months into 2007, and no one had ANYTHING out for that car at the time, other than a $1500 Procede that was basically 50 cents in resistors.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
        Alot more to making power than just displacement, that being said the CTS-V is IMO the hands down winner in the performance category. Maybe not stock but as noted above IF it loses it won't be by much, however few people on a site like this care about stock as we like to mod and in that sense the V will smoke both the M5 and E63. Hell there are people making 800+ on V's right now and it will be along time before we see that out of either German car.
        I wouldn't be so sure this time around. The M5 has headroom until 700 hp with bolt on's. The E63 is going to be a beast as well.

        Bollt on vs. bolt on I think the M5 wins due to weight and the DCT vs. the CTS-V. It will also be faster stock for stock.