• Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis

      This is the information that ESS Tuning threatened BimmerBoost with legal action over. Some of you may remember that last year we reported the RDsport motor supercharged and tuned by ESS failed. Asbjorn then proceeded to write threats against myself and my family if the information was not removed. BimmerBoost did not remove the information and called their bluff. We have acquired the evidence to prove the motor failed and that it was a result of the supercharger and tuning.

      We learned from a source that there was material in the oil pan. What was that material? Well, here is the answer, a broken ringland:





      What causes a broken ringland? Detonation is usually the source. Here are the types of failure that detonation usually causes:

      1. Mechanical damage (broken ringlands or rod bearing failures)

      2. Abrasion (seen on the piston crown)

      3. Overheating (piston skirts scuffed due to excess heat)

      You already saw that number 1 took place, in the pictures below you can see that numbers 2 and 3 seemed to be a factor as well:





      Those look like classic signs of detonation folks. The motor looks like it wore itself out over time which would explain the claims of the owner "driving" shortly before disassembly. Sure, it ran, but not for long according to the pictures and definitely was not healthy.

      What appears to have happened is heat built up over time as a result of detonation from possibly a lack of fuel or from the pre-ignition due to too much timing on high compression, as in, poor tuning.

      We sent these pictures to an engine builder as well as tuner, people you all know but who asked not to be named, to get their take on what happened:

      Quote Originally Posted by Engine Builder
      You can see in one cylinder that there are clear signs of detonation in the wall and the skirt, in addition to the obvious sign being that one of the ring lands is broken. All of which are indicative of detonation. As far as the source of this detonation, that's all speculation without additional information. It could obviously be a tuning issue, it could be a systematic fueling issue (lack of fuel), but any clear cut answer would need more data.
      And from the tuner:

      Quote Originally Posted by Tuner
      Initially looks to be piece of piston/ringland shot down into pan. Looks like the motor beat itself to death prior, how long did it last?

      Is that the high comp stroker? If so what was static C/R?

      Did they report the heads? I see they mowed the guides down to motorcycle head level, unfortunately automotive valves/springs are heavier and that causes valvetrain instability like a motherfucker at high rpm. I would love to see pics of the valve seats, are there any? i bet they were beaten to death by detonation as well.
      Quote Originally Posted by Tuner
      Yeah detonation/preignition city. Tops of pistons have hot spots burned in them via the exhaust valves, EGTs must have been through the roof if he had cats I bet he melted them, suprised it didn't cut through a piston. Valves and chambers show signs of detonation all over the place.

      Well there you have it folks, this motor died rather quickly detonating itself into oblivion. Why? Well, ESS tuning has not been able to have any success tuning supercharged motors outside of the factory internally stock S65. Remember, this in no way reflects on their stock motor kits which are very solid options. The issue rather is their ability to tune for setups beyond the stock motor and this is why they abandoned their Stage 3 low compression supercharged motor. Did this motor failure play a factor in it? Possibly, but either way ESS currently has a 0% success rate with any built motor S65 application.

      What many people do not realize is ESS files actually originate overseas. We have heard from more than one tuner that their base files come from the same tuner that does the tuning for G-power. Well, many of you know that G-power kits have failed. This is not odd, we would not be surprised if several kits on the market today share some file similarities that originated from the first G-power kits. This is how it works folks, there is no magic. The problem though lies in that ESS is limited in custom tuning ability as they are forced to work within the narrow confines of what they have been given. This works great for the stock motor setups, but in custom setups, the results can be disastrous as you see here.

      What makes this all the more amusing? The owner of this vehicle and ESS has engaged in a cover-up claiming nothing was wrong. Look at what the ESS file loader / US tuner Asbjorn wrote to us:

      Quote Originally Posted by Asbjorn@ESS
      I am not sure where you have your info from, but Roberts motor was never blown. I hear that you openly post this around the web and I must warn you that legal action will be taken if you do not stop spreading these false rumors immediately. We have had more than enough of your retarded bullshit at this point and you can be sure we will take this one step further if you keep spreading false derogatory information about ESS. Everything you have stated on this matter has been recorded.
      False information? Sir, with all due respect, you are a liar and hypocrite. Every lie you have told about this motor I have collected and will now present in succession. I intend to make it crystal clear that you are willing to lie, cheat, and threaten people to maintain an illusion of tuning superiority while attacking others when you have your own failures you try to sweep under the rug. Well, this won't be swept aside. A further reminder:

      Quote Originally Posted by Asbjorn@ESS
      And last but not least, Roberts engine was just fine when he removed it. I thought he was crazy pulling the engine as well as the car ran phenomenal IMHO, but he wanted 200MPH in the standing mile and that was more important to him than to have a perfectly balanced daily driver for a reasonable amount of money. I really could care less if a RD 4.6 engine blew, as this is not a production S65 and it does not really impact our S65 sales -but facts are it did not. Robert pulled the best 60-130MPH ever on the way to AutoTalent for engine removal. Speak to Sam and Zolti if you do not believe this.

      If possible I would like to keep a professional and honest tone with you in the future, this is even more important for both parties now that you run a good size public forum (quite frankly I am very impressed that you managed to pull the site build/marketing off so well).
      More lies. This motor was not fine, as any sane person can see. The owner claims to be "open" and "honest" about everything that takes place. Nope, just when it serves his interest as the owner is a liar, hypocrite, and has done a complete disservice to the BMW community covering this up after saying he would provide pictures:

      Quote Originally Posted by PencilGeek
      Eventually I'll post photos somewhere.
      That quote was made in August of last year after these pictures were taken, how long does it take to post photos you already have of a motor you know failed but lied to everyone about? Some more:

      Quote Originally Posted by PencilGeek
      I'm in the process of lowing the compression. It seems like there is way too much drama around here and made up stories. That's why I offered to let anybody go take any photos they wanted.
      I called this bluff and said I would take photos and was even taunted with a $100 incentive to do so. He never lived up to his own challenge and well you can all see why. How about just more blatant lying?

      Quote Originally Posted by PencilGeek
      The blown motor and custom billet block story was Sam at Auto Talent's idea -- just to f* with certain people "up the street" and to humiliate anybody who was dumb and/or gullible enough to believe it. And of course, I enjoy doing the same thing, so I went along with it. Sam called me up with the idea and sent me a link to the video and suggested I post it. It obviously worked. But I never expected that it would work so well because I never thought people here were so gullible and devoid of independent thoughts.
      AutoTalent was building this car and Sam is the owner. He originally told people the motor blew and told the truth. After he apparently was chewed out by PencilGeek who wants to maintain his illusion of looking like he knows what he is doing and that he knows something about cars, he started this spin about making up a blown motor story. And what did Sam do? Well, the spineless little man decided to lie to everyone as well showing he has no integrity:

      =Sam@AutoTalent]- Robert / Pencil Geek / PG's motor was never blown or had any problems. The reason for the re-build is to make more power to achieve the 200 mph goal in the Texas Mile. He drove his car from Northern California to Southern California to take care of the next step. Robert has been very upfront about everything he's done with his car & it's performance.
      Another lie from people with no credibility or integrity.

      Now, we are sure the owner and ESS are already steaming and wondering what can they do to spin this. Maybe try to claim this is not Robert's motor? Well, good luck with that, as Robert happened to send me in an e-mail hi-resolution photographs of his bored block, take a look here:



      That is before the supercharger. See the serial number there to the left? Feel free to match it up to the block of the failed motor:



      Same motor. That not good enough for you? You can clearly see it is a bored block and additionally that those are aftermarket pistons in the failed motor. If you look at the top you can see an arrow on the pistons, which the stock BMW pistons do not have:

      Stroker/bored piston in failed motor:



      And a stock piston:


      What led to this entire situation?

      1. Envious and arrogant owner who became upset other and much younger owners were supercharging their cars and outperforming him for far less money.

      2. No foresight to realize forced induction would be the way to go for big power.

      3. Lack of experience and knowledge with BMW tuning as the owner should have built the motor with low compression pistons to begin with but did not know what he was doing and has now paid the price.

      4. Using a tuner that has not demonstrated the ability to complete custom projects outside of a narrow framework.


      So there you have it. What makes this all worse is that these people have been attacking Active Autowerke as of late just as Gintani used to be attacked. ESS has been using their marketing tools, and I use tools with emphasis, to spread misleading information of Active Autowerke and their supercharged motors to continue to create this illusion of superiority and better reliability. I hate to burst the bubble for you folks, but every tuner has had some issues. We have not played favorites showing you the Active failure (which may be attributed to rod bearings), Gintani rod bearing failure, and now the ESS stroker failure. We would probably list a VF-Engineering failure as well but they have to get on the market first (although they have enough S54 failures that they are set in the engine failure department for some time to come).

      Ladies and Gentlemen, there is no magic tuner. There is no one super reliable superior setup. These are high compression motors being pushed to HP levels that are almost double what they come with in some cases. There will be bumps in the road. We do not wish to chastise ESS Tuning but considering how they have attacked everyone else and blatantly lied, it's time for this information to come out. We find their tactics and threats absolutely deplorable. Omar at Active Autowerke actually put it best:

      Quote Originally Posted by Omar@ActiveAutowerke
      Thanks for deliberately misleading the consumer again in this ongoing mission to re-assure yourself you made the right decision. The information posted above is misleading and not a direct reflection of how much power these cars make. A thread will be posted later today to give a better idea of how the Active Autowerke system performs.
      We hope you all realize this is all a game being played to control your minds. Why? For money. For the user getting a deal (like the owner in question) and for the company. It's too bad this owner cares more about discounts than coming clean. We would all understand, but instead, we see attacks and instability pointing fingers at everyone else.

      There are four vendors all selling competing supercharger kits on BimmerBoost. EAS sells VF-Engineering, Precision Sport sells Active Autowerke, Gintani sells their own, and IND-Distribution sells the ESS Tuning kit. These companies all get along and do not bash one another. IND in particular provides quality builds, support, and we fully recommend the ESS setups they sell as some of the highest quality options one can buy. Notice they don't sit around bashing each other? What is the missing element? Well, that is for you to decide and we believe you are bright enough to figure it out.

      All the motor failure pictures are posted below, analyze them yourself if you wish.

























































































































































      This article was originally published in forum thread: Mystery solved: What happened to the ESS Tuning supercharged RDsport stroker M3? Blown motor / S65 engine failure diagnosis started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        I heard these guys have been to the top law schools:

      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        dont worry, im in on it now Click here to enlarge
      1. black bnr32's Avatar
        black bnr32 -
        any spark plug pics?
      1. BrenM3's Avatar
        BrenM3 -
        What site are you guys linking from?
      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        It is on E46fanatics.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Maybe it's because of the boost leak ? Click here to enlarge
        the source of every problems in ESS cars is boost leak.
      1. akh23456's Avatar
        akh23456 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        Maybe it's because of the boost leak ? Click here to enlarge
        the source of every problems in ESS cars is boost leak.
        Click here to enlarge
      1. 3Fest's Avatar
        3Fest -
        Awesome thread! It's good all the truth and real information is put out there on a forum NOT like BSPost (love it).
      1. TaZaM3's Avatar
        TaZaM3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        Maybe it's because of the boost leak ? Click here to enlarge
        the source of every problems in ESS cars is boost leak.
        LMAO, not this time its actually a smaller filter that was "accidentally" installed causing a loss of 50hp.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 3Fest Click here to enlarge
        Awesome thread! It's good all the truth and real information is put out there on a forum NOT like BSPost (love it).
        well, enthusiasts love it, people on payrolls and with agenda's HATE it Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TaZaM3 Click here to enlarge
        LMAO, not this time its actually a smaller filter that was "accidentally" installed causing a loss of 50hp.
        They went to a larger filter and lost power....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        well, enthusiasts love it, people on payrolls and with agenda's HATE it Click here to enlarge
        Exactly.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        By the way, a few more tuners / engine builders I have sent these pictures to say it is odd pictures of the headgasket are missing as that would reveal several details. Take a look:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tuner Click here to enlarge
        wow, not a good one!

        well, broken ringland, and you definitely have some extreme heat going on and detonation. It also looks like you may have some major scoring and possibly some carbon build but the pic could be misleading.

        I would say poor tuning due to pre-ignition or lack of fuel.

        So a supercharged 12.0:1, so that would be a M3 most likely. So not too many supercharger vendors out there, so I would guess G-power? (or ESS i assume)- as they use the same tuner! (oops was I not supposed to say that lol)
        More:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMW Engine Builder Click here to enlarge
        Dear Joseph

        Thanks for the pictures.

        Do you happen to have a picture of the head gaskets?
        and more:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tuner Click here to enlarge
        Well the cracked ring landing tells the whole story. detonation blowby, low power, down power etc. There is no fixing that - no lower boost fix, no soft tune etc - you extended the inevitable. In a few cases there can be a pourus mistake with chinese pistons where they have weakened. I've had cars who run knock link/loggers crack them and we found out it was a manuf. problem. I'd personally expect RD Sport to know better then to deal with chinese pistons.
        Interesting, eh?

        Especially the last post about extending the inevitable which explains how he drove on it.
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Okay guys, here's the truth. I blew PG's motor, It was me. LOL

        This guy is nuts! Pathological liar, it's almost unbelievable.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Okay guys, here's the truth. I blew PG's motor, It was me. LOL

        This guy is nuts! Pathological liar, it's almost unbelievable.
        You couldn't write this script.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
        any spark plug pics?
        No, and if they looked good as well as the headgasket I'm sure we'd have them. He has already demonstrated picking and choosing photos to mislead people.

        What a coincidence no photos of broken rings/ringlands appeared anywhere Click here to enlarge
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        The thing is that ESS never should have supercharged this car. Just read the headline. Supercharged stroker motor blown. You don't have to do rocketsience to figure out that could happen Click here to enlarge

        And when they did supercharged it, ESS should have just said it like it is. The owner wanted us to supercharge his car, so we did eventhough we think it might not last.

        When the engine failed they should have said: well, the engine failed...

        It should have been that easy cause everyone involved in this project had to know it was a big chance it was going to break after a while.

        oh, and by the way. Someone said:
        So a supercharged 12.0:1, so that would be a M3 most likely. So not too many supercharger vendors out there, so I would guess G-power? (or ESS i assume)- as they use the same tuner! (oops was I not supposed to say that lol)

        Asbjorn tune ESS cars. Someone else tune G-power cars. True story.

        have a nice dayClick here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        The thing is that ESS never should have supercharged this car.
        It's not that they should have never supercharged it, custom projects are cool. It's that they should not have lied to all of us about what happened. They also now should not be throwing RDsport under the bus. At some point you would think someone would stand up and do the right thing. This could have been something unique and special but it was a mix of poor timing (haha, get the pun?) as well as the wrong owner.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        Asbjorn tune ESS cars. Someone else tune G-power cars. True story.
        Asbjorn flashes cars. The real tuner is in Europe, true story.
      1. Setra's Avatar
        Setra -
        Yes it was a cool project, but with all the drama that comes with it you would think it's not worth it.
        Yes i agree with you, they shouldn't have lied about it.

        I'm not going to debate with you that AJ tune the cars. It can turn into a yes he does, no he doesn't, yes he does arguementClick here to enlarge
        But when someone have told you the tuner lives in Europe it's because Asbjon is from Norway that is in Europe.

        Anyway..Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        I'm not going to debate with you that AJ tune the cars. It can turn into a yes he does, no he doesn't, yes he does arguement
        But when someone have told you the tuner lives in Europe it's because Asbjon is from Norway that is in Europe.
        The tuners in question know what is going on. Ever wonder why AJ backed down from the tuner shootout? Because he can only work with files in a limited fashion.

        All the real work is done overseas NOT by him. Yes, I know he is originally from Europe.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Setra Click here to enlarge
        Yes it was a cool project, but with all the drama that comes with it you would think it's not worth it.
        Yes i agree with you, they shouldn't have lied about it.
        It's a disaster, but they brought it upon themselves. It would only be fitting for the owner to have to end up at the company and tuner he has been bashing for years to get this all sorted.